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My teacher is anti-Trump
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Rainstorm wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Rainstorm wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
If it's a teacher in a different country in the US I don't see an issue at all it's not like Kent-Roger from .. random place.. ehh.. Karasjok is going to vote for a republican or even Trump. Kent-Roger is more likely to vote on parties in his respective country, Norway. 
So?? The teacher shouldn't influence their students into thinking negatively about Trump or republicans (of course not the other way around either)

Doesn't matter if they're a US citizens or not, it's still wrong
Err okay so.. no. I disagree at a fundamental level here, I highly doubt you would find it questionable if said teacher criticised Putin for being pretty much a dictator, the leaders of China and North Korea (for obvious reasons), the leader of Venezuela (also obvious reasons) and the list goes on. Furthermore, the politics of today is the history of tomorrow. Few, if any, would accept a teacher to refuse to talk about former politics that turned out to be incredibly horrible at a lot of levels, obvious example: Hitler. 
Now, maybe you wouldn't want to compare Trump to Hitler, however there are some parallels, and also some significant differences such as Hitler actually being skilled charismatically - thus being a more appealing character for people in need, whereas Trump is in essence a man child who moans and complain when things doesn't go his way. The detention camps in the US can be compared to the concentration camps of Nazi Germany. How on earth can anyone find it even remotely acceptable to be like yeah but they're illegal immigrants so naturally we should keep them in literal camps and separate children from their parents lmao great idea!! 
It's not the teacher's job to share their own personal view in order to influence their students

If you wanna use Hitler for example, is it better for a teacher to say "Hitler is bad. He's evil. He's a terrible person" or is it better for the teacher to give their students information about Hitler (instead of adding their own personal opinion) and the students can make up their own mind about it? Obviously must would say that Hitler was an evil man but there's a much more grey area with Trump. There's no "he's only good" or "he's only bad".. allow the students to think for themselves instead of trying to brainwash them into disliking Trump. Republicans already get enough hate from democrats
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Troublemaker wrote:
Rainstorm wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Rainstorm wrote:
So?? The teacher shouldn't influence their students into thinking negatively about Trump or republicans (of course not the other way around either)

Doesn't matter if they're a US citizens or not, it's still wrong
Err okay so.. no. I disagree at a fundamental level here, I highly doubt you would find it questionable if said teacher criticised Putin for being pretty much a dictator, the leaders of China and North Korea (for obvious reasons), the leader of Venezuela (also obvious reasons) and the list goes on. Furthermore, the politics of today is the history of tomorrow. Few, if any, would accept a teacher to refuse to talk about former politics that turned out to be incredibly horrible at a lot of levels, obvious example: Hitler. 
Now, maybe you wouldn't want to compare Trump to Hitler, however there are some parallels, and also some significant differences such as Hitler actually being skilled charismatically - thus being a more appealing character for people in need, whereas Trump is in essence a man child who moans and complain when things doesn't go his way. The detention camps in the US can be compared to the concentration camps of Nazi Germany. How on earth can anyone find it even remotely acceptable to be like yeah but they're illegal immigrants so naturally we should keep them in literal camps and separate children from their parents lmao great idea!! 
It's not the teacher's job to share their own personal view in order to influence their students

If you wanna use Hitler for example, is it better for a teacher to say "Hitler is bad. He's evil. He's a terrible person" or is it better for the teacher to give their students information about Hitler (instead of adding their own personal opinion) and the students can make up their own mind about it? Obviously must would say that Hitler was an evil man but there's a much more grey area with Trump. There's no "he's only good" or "he's only bad".. allow the students to think for themselves instead of trying to brainwash them into disliking Trump. Republicans already get enough hate from democrats
tbh i think students are smart to use social media to know what's up. i don't think the teacher will brainwash the students, it's more likely the students will teach the ... teacher, at the end of the day. 
and i don't see the wrong with "hitler is bad. he's evil. he's a terrible person" but no teacher says that without context. 
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Troublemaker wrote:
and i feel like if no teacher stated that the said person was bad or did bad things, the students would attack them as well. there's no winning side 
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u give me headaches 
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If it's a civics teacher then it makes sense why they're vocal about that.
Date: 22-01-2020 17:14
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junkiekid wrote:
I think teacher should always have a neutral and unbiased stand-point and especially when it comes to politics. But also ofcourse in other subjects too. A teacher should teach us how to think but not what to think.
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Troublemaker wrote:
SisterMorphine wrote:
If it's a civics teacher then it makes sense why they're vocal about that.
wait
i just googled civics
are u telling me there's a word for that!!!
i used social science the wholE time 
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Rainstorm wrote:
junkiekid wrote:
I think teacher should always have a neutral and unbiased stand-point and especially when it comes to politics. But also ofcourse in other subjects too. A teacher should teach us how to think but not what to think.
That's what I'm thinking as well
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u give me headaches 
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wug wrote:
Rainstorm wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Rainstorm wrote:
So?? The teacher shouldn't influence their students into thinking negatively about Trump or republicans (of course not the other way around either)

Doesn't matter if they're a US citizens or not, it's still wrong
Err okay so.. no. I disagree at a fundamental level here, I highly doubt you would find it questionable if said teacher criticised Putin for being pretty much a dictator, the leaders of China and North Korea (for obvious reasons), the leader of Venezuela (also obvious reasons) and the list goes on. Furthermore, the politics of today is the history of tomorrow. Few, if any, would accept a teacher to refuse to talk about former politics that turned out to be incredibly horrible at a lot of levels, obvious example: Hitler. 
Now, maybe you wouldn't want to compare Trump to Hitler, however there are some parallels, and also some significant differences such as Hitler actually being skilled charismatically - thus being a more appealing character for people in need, whereas Trump is in essence a man child who moans and complain when things doesn't go his way. The detention camps in the US can be compared to the concentration camps of Nazi Germany. How on earth can anyone find it even remotely acceptable to be like yeah but they're illegal immigrants so naturally we should keep them in literal camps and separate children from their parents lmao great idea!! 
It's not the teacher's job to share their own personal view in order to influence their students

If you wanna use Hitler for example, is it better for a teacher to say "Hitler is bad. He's evil. He's a terrible person" or is it better for the teacher to give their students information about Hitler (instead of adding their own personal opinion) and the students can make up their own mind about it? Obviously must would say that Hitler was an evil man but there's a much more grey area with Trump. There's no "he's only good" or "he's only bad".. allow the students to think for themselves instead of trying to brainwash them into disliking Trump. Republicans already get enough hate from democrats
I think a lot of people here overestimate the influential role of modern-day teachers, for staters. Why I think so? Because gradually we have seen a decrease in the status of this job, furthermore, we live in a time and age where every information is questioned, at least by the average + above average intellectual. Fools will be lead to believe whatever, regardless. It is our personal job to make sure that the information bestowed upon us actually is accurate, if you blindly believe every word of a person in a more powerful possession than you, then sorry but you are at fault here. 

There were grey areas with Hitler, too. If you believe in any such concept as purely evil or purely good, then sorry to tell you, but you are in for great disappointment in humanity. People are never clear cut 100% one thing or another, there are always nuances to any aspect. That's how it is. I also noticed how you completely ignored my point about other countries' leaders and I would therefore bring this up again because I would like to know your personal stance on that matter. 
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wug wrote:
Troublemaker wrote:
SisterMorphine wrote:
If it's a civics teacher then it makes sense why they're vocal about that.
wait
i just googled civics
are u telling me there's a word for that!!!
i used social science the wholE time 
oooh so that's samfunnsfag 
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Troublemaker wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Troublemaker wrote:
SisterMorphine wrote:
If it's a civics teacher then it makes sense why they're vocal about that.
wait
i just googled civics
are u telling me there's a word for that!!!
i used social science the wholE time 
oooh so that's samfunnsfag 
yEAH
mindblown 
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junkiekid wrote:
also atleast in sweden there's a law stating that teachers aren't  allowed to state their own political opinions and that the teaching needs to be unbiased

many teachers break this rule though especially when it comes to the swedish democrates 
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wug wrote:
I mean, bruh, my teacher in junior high/secondary - whatever you want to name it, held 2 minutes of silence when FrP and Høyre got enough % to rule Norway so I mean.. It was jokingly, a lot of the people were happy for it but stop being so ... butt hurt? I don't know what to call it, people are entitled to have their own opinions and if that's an issue we have several countries, currently, which do not allow freedom of speech so perhaps move over there if opinions is an issue. 
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wug wrote:
junkiekid wrote:
also atleast in sweden there's a law stating that teachers aren't  allowed to state their own political opinions and that the teaching needs to be unbiased

many teachers break this rule though especially when it comes to the swedish democrates 
would anyone be surprised that teachers tend to lean to the left? no.
why? people on the right tend to have a lot of money or little education. teachers are often neither of those. 
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