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Infinitevoid wrote:

floge wrote:

Nesta wrote:
where are they mad about that

one person said alot of comments like its ableism and we have no emphaty and hoping we never meet or interract with a disabled person. i will say they were mad

idk the tonetag thing at all like why is it big thing if people don't want to use them
Like unless you directly ask for me to use them when we are in 1 on 1 convo then yeah i get it but otherwise no

or if you're in a longer convo where it's clear misunderstandings are happening and what you write can be read very unclear, then I'd also add it, but not as a general thing for ppl I do not know at all. or if it's requested by the thread starter or if i reply to someone who specific asks for it.

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Babel wrote:

floge wrote:

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why does this website keep going down. I finally got my layout and coding for my club, I just want to be stuck up and write some rules please

ye it sucks, i was so invested in the debate over tone tags

dw
There'll probably be tons of new threads about the drama in just 30 minutes

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I was invested in a book topic
but i'm annoyed that I have to wait 15minutes to respond

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lain wrote:

Nesta wrote:
I was invested in a book topic
but i'm annoyed that I have to wait 15minutes to respond

i hate the comment timer thing

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Ashnikko wrote:

Nesta wrote:

Infinitevoid wrote:

floge wrote:
one person said alot of comments like its ableism and we have no emphaty and hoping we never meet or interract with a disabled person. i will say they were mad

idk the tonetag thing at all like why is it big thing if people don't want to use them
Like unless you directly ask for me to use them when we are in 1 on 1 convo then yeah i get it but otherwise no

or if you're in a longer convo where it's clear misunderstandings are happening and what you write can be read very unclear, then I'd also add it, but not as a general thing for ppl I do not know at all. or if it's requested by the thread starter or if i reply to someone who specific asks for it.

Yeah, by default people shouldn’t though, well each. individual can if they want, but no one should expect everyone to use them

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actually i was gonna respond to BABEL here abt if cytonic is better than starsight

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Infinitevoid wrote:

Nesta wrote:

Infinitevoid wrote:
idk the tonetag thing at all like why is it big thing if people don't want to use them
Like unless you directly ask for me to use them when we are in 1 on 1 convo then yeah i get it but otherwise no

or if you're in a longer convo where it's clear misunderstandings are happening and what you write can be read very unclear, then I'd also add it, but not as a general thing for ppl I do not know at all. or if it's requested by the thread starter or if i reply to someone who specific asks for it.

Yeah, by default people shouldn’t though, well each. individual can if they want, but no one should expect everyone to use them

yeah

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I need to go shower, bye c:

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lain wrote:
anyways i used too many adult words so i should balance it out a bit
poop fart pee poo

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Ashnikko wrote:
I find it funny how gsm is full of adults but ton of them act like kids

Honestly I get why most of my friends laugh at these type of games because lot of the people feel like they want to have drama and all that but twitter/some other way more toxic platform is too much for them

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Melody wrote:
i gave my piece already in that topic haha
like i don't expect ppl to use the tags bc i recognize it's like... not part of typical conversations? of able ppl? idk, see i'm very much socially disabled (but allegedly not on the spectrum) so i don't really know what is expected behavior and what is not. i don't talk to ppl irl very often so online ppl are the only socialization i get (and some might see this as "sad" or smthin but it's the way i've lived all my life and i "don't know any better" ) and thus i sorta give them voices? personalities? make them "real ppl" haha
but them alongside emojis help me understand what u r trying to say, like i misread ppl's messages all the time, though i've tried to get better by assuming everyone is speaking in neutral tone unless otherwise specified - in which case the tone tags would help, because when i read something as negative i can get very emotional over it and it has led to awkward moments that could have been avoided but. i've heard that's part of humanity too. slowly learning these things, ehh, mby some day i'll fit in

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i can see how it can become frustrating yes
and its so maddening (for me atleast) because i literally can not do anything about it, my brain will not function that way, i cant pick up on the cues automatically i have to do it manually and with pattern recognition

however i just ask right out if i misunderstood, so i dont think i get into those situations where everyone gets frustrated a lot?
i ask when im confused, i ask people to be patient, i have no problem with admitting that i think i have misunderstood something

but also i dont feel like this is just an autistic thing either

yeah i've heard people explain how they do things that for me is as basic as breathing and i can understand that it's not a great way of experiencing things and that it is exhausting.

people should be better at being patient, but i think it's difficult for a lot of people to understand how much processing is involved in language and communication. it is super detailed and extremely complicated, so having to be focused on it rather than do it "naturally" is a mental work out session.

i feel like the difference is that for autistic people it's often like it has to be consciously done at all times and at some point you reach the maximum of doing that like it's too much and then it gets bad, while others seemingly misinterpret things on purpose just to be cunts or read the absolute worst meaning into something because they are gremlins. of course confusion can occur at all times, i just think it's how you approach it that matters really.

it is extremely exhausting yes (for me atleast, all im talking about now is my personal experience, not talking on behalf of other autistic people) and that is the reason why im almost never social, i dont go outside because its just not worth it often

it is yes

yes, i can see how its easy to "boil over" when it comes to miscommunication. i've had people blow up in my face for this reason, and ive gotten hurtful comments that slips out when people get frustrated
and it makes me just not want to talk. cause i dont do it on purpose, and i think some people forgets that
ironically im better at online communication than irl because i dont see anyones faces and can just read out right what people are saying

i also used to go to an autism group, and it was really sad to hear that a lot of the other members in the group didnt dare to ask people to clarify because of situations in the past where people get angry

in online communication you don't need to actively read into when it is "your turn" to talk, and when someone is done talking, when someone wants a reaction, what reaction they want, interpret if it is a question or a statement because that's often clear in written speech regardless of the presence of "?", so a lot of those aspects are removed so you can focus more on content rather than those extreme fine details that are hard to consciously learn.

i'm upset to hear that, i hope things become more understanding as knowledge of this become more widespread, psychology is still, compared to medicine for instance, in its infancy so there's still a lot we don't know and stigma from the past is difficult to do something about, someone has to be trailblazers and show how much variation is present in people on the autism spectrum, because it's never fully identical and people have acquired different skills and techniques to "take part in society", so it's always going to be different.

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wug wrote:
communication seems to be the issue all the time, people are too proud to admit when they're confused about things and shit and it ends up in stupid things and it's annoying.
sure it's possible to accommodate, but i feel like that's more about clarifying after a misunderstanding rather than explicitly explain every single thing as if everyone was born a minute ago

yes agreed people should just learn to be openly confused it would make life much easier for everyone and some misunderstandings are very funny too so i don't mind them happening

yeah people should be less : S about communicating and expressing when something is unclear or bad and shit and the other person should address that in a mature way, that's the best way to deal with it instead of gaslighting and fighting and chaotic emotions and being hurt when there is no reason to be

yes exactly! And many topics don't even have right or wrong answers so arguments seem very useless

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Karamellkung wrote:
5663 comments after my last comment… never seen an topic with this many comments

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Babel wrote:

Nesta wrote:
actually i was gonna respond to BABEL here abt if cytonic is better than starsight

I just started Cytonic, so I honestly don't know yet ! Only on chapter 4.

I was mightly disappointed by Starsight though, it felt kind of unfinished and with too many loose threads in the ending (i hate cliffhangers)

From what I've gathered it seems more promising in the starting chapters, and it seems like it really want to do something about the loose threads from book 2.