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Chat0yant
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Chat0yant wrote:
devilcake wrote:
I shant be arguing about piracy any longer because clearly you are too stuck in lawfulness=morality.

your way of thinking is very complicit with capitalism and oppression and this will color my view of you going forward until otherwise proven. Do with that what you will.
it seems to me that the two are rather related? Piracy is illegal. So the discussion on whether legality = morality is rather central to the debate on whether piracy is moral despite, because, or not because it is illegal.

I'm not really sure what to say to the second paragraph. That is your right. Thank you for teaching me about tone indicators, I shall save a graph of them for future reference 
 /gen /nm /pos (wow i took /pos to mean something very different until now, oopsie...)
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Date: 11-02-2026 11:08
Dollzmaniac
National Star



dollzmaniac wrote:
i loveeee piraccyyyy
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Date: 11-02-2026 11:09
Klavier
Minister of Pop



Klavier wrote:
bro
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Date: 11-02-2026 11:16
Chat0yant
World Famous



Chat0yant wrote:
dollzmaniac wrote:
i loveeee piraccyyyy
care to elaborate why or if not that's ok  /gen
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Date: 11-02-2026 11:18
Private
Princess of Pop



Arthema wrote:
If buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing, and subscriptions are just a predatory way to milk our money even further.
I DO buy games occasionally if I want to support the actual devs, and subscriptions of creators, be it artists or content creators, etc, but besides that? I support piracy all the way.
Just because it's illegal does not equal moral nor good, some laws were made to put us down and I will not be supporting pigs.

Same argument can be used about abortion. Abortion is illegal here no matter the reason for it, even if you'll die without it.
That's a convo that is not appropriate for this thread as it is an entirely different topic and issue.

Not all immoral acts are illegal, and not all laws are moral. 
Lawfulness and Morality are not related, they only overlap, therefore they are not the same.
I will lastly add that your take and comparison of stealing from a grocery store because you're broke and someone trying to justify rape... Christ.
I saw you reflected on that and found different examples, but despite that I would not engage in this supposed debate further if you are hardstuck in your ways and bringing up such things. (And Devilcake pretty much nailed the opinion and points I wanted to bring so, pretty futile)
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Date: 11-02-2026 12:05
Private
International Star



bexxi wrote:
when i was like 13 i had a cracked video editing progeam and cracked sai and ummm i wouldnt hsve been as creative as a child otherwise. thank u pirating
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Date: 11-02-2026 12:22
Private
Living Legend



lain wrote:
bexxi wrote:
when i was like 13 i had a cracked video editing progeam and cracked sai and ummm i wouldnt hsve been as creative as a child otherwise. thank u pirating
omg twin my priated sai carried me until i got csp for free at school 
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Date: 11-02-2026 14:04
Private
Living Legend



lain wrote:
I’m a bit confused about wanting to debate this if you are incapable of taking anything away from the discussion except piracy = stealing and stealing = morally wrong though 
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Date: 11-02-2026 14:10
Dollzmaniac
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dollzmaniac wrote:
Chat0yant wrote:
dollzmaniac wrote:
i loveeee piraccyyyy
care to elaborate why or if not that's ok  /gen
cuz im not a nerd
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Date: 11-02-2026 14:43
Private
International Star



bexxi wrote:
lain wrote:
bexxi wrote:
when i was like 13 i had a cracked video editing progeam and cracked sai and ummm i wouldnt hsve been as creative as a child otherwise. thank u pirating
omg twin my priated sai carried me until i got csp for free at school 
nowadays i bought a say license because im an adult now and i have money

so glad i didnt have to just use gimp and loose interest in art because the  program is shit 
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Date: 11-02-2026 21:26
Private
International Star



bexxi wrote:
lain wrote:
I’m a bit confused about wanting to debate this if you are incapable of taking anything away from the discussion except piracy = stealing and stealing = morally wrong though 
yeah thats incredibly 2d thinking ... very black and white no place for nuance and grey lol
thats what i would expect from a small child but an adult should know that yes, laws are there and breakings laws = bad but u should be able to know theres more to it and that there are nuances
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Date: 11-02-2026 21:28
Dwaal
International Star



Dwaal wrote:
bexxi wrote:
lain wrote:
bexxi wrote:
when i was like 13 i had a cracked video editing progeam and cracked sai and ummm i wouldnt hsve been as creative as a child otherwise. thank u pirating
omg twin my priated sai carried me until i got csp for free at school 
nowadays i bought a say license because im an adult now and i have money

so glad i didnt have to just use gimp and loose interest in art because the  program is shit 
I still have my old sai cracked on a usb which I got from a sketchy link on old gsm... that was the times... 
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Date: 11-02-2026 21:30
Private
International Star



bexxi wrote:
Dwaal wrote:
bexxi wrote:
lain wrote:
omg twin my priated sai carried me until i got csp for free at school 
nowadays i bought a say license because im an adult now and i have money

so glad i didnt have to just use gimp and loose interest in art because the  program is shit 
I still have my old sai cracked on a usb which I got from a sketchy link on old gsm... that was the times... 
i shared my cracked sai version with sooooo many ppl on gsm. spread the joy
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Date: 11-02-2026 21:32
Dwaal
International Star



Dwaal wrote:
bexxi wrote:
Dwaal wrote:
bexxi wrote:
nowadays i bought a say license because im an adult now and i have money

so glad i didnt have to just use gimp and loose interest in art because the  program is shit 
I still have my old sai cracked on a usb which I got from a sketchy link on old gsm... that was the times... 
i shared my cracked sai version with sooooo many ppl on gsm. spread the joy
I don't even remember who I got it from, just that they were a pretty well known person on the danish server 


Also yes!! Spread it let the joy hit the people (I probably have your version too then mayb :') ) 
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Date: 11-02-2026 21:34
Private
International Star



bexxi wrote:
Dwaal wrote:
bexxi wrote:
Dwaal wrote:
I still have my old sai cracked on a usb which I got from a sketchy link on old gsm... that was the times... 
i shared my cracked sai version with sooooo many ppl on gsm. spread the joy
I don't even remember who I got it from, just that they were a pretty well known person on the danish server 


Also yes!! Spread it let the joy hit the people (I probably have your version too then mayb :') ) 
do you remember how u got the link? i told ppl to go to the deviantart profile of the uer onisuu n then click an icon and it would redirect them into her dropbox where u could download the cracked sai
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Date: 12-02-2026 21:35
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