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Sylvan wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
12 is just weird and mean tbh.
Like asexuality is even on the kinsey scale, asexuals are not straight.

queer people = not straight and or not cis

asexuals =/ straight, because straight = heterosexual

If you want to go by the 'oppressed sexual and gender minorities' definition:

It's not a competition, but asexuals suffer from stigma and prejudice too.

Asexuality is incredibly pathologized and not taken seriously, especially in men. 
There are people more equipped to explain this, but asexual youths go through many of the same cycles as other lgbt+ youth and experience rejection and shame because of who they are.
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Sylvan wrote:
kinda scared for your opinion on nb people lol
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ouch wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
12 is just weird and mean tbh.
Like asexuality is even on the kinsey scale, asexuals are not straight.

queer people = not straight and or not cis

asexuals =/ straight, because straight = heterosexual

If you want to go by the 'oppressed sexual and gender minorities' definition:

It's not a competition, but asexuals suffer from stigma and prejudice too.

Asexuality is incredibly pathologized and not taken seriously, especially in men. 
There are people more equipped to explain this, but asexual youths go through many of the same cycles as other lgbt+ youth and experience rejection and shame because of who they are.
U can be asexual and straight tho, its usually just an undercategory of straight/gay/bi I guess 
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Sylvan wrote:
ouch wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
12 is just weird and mean tbh.
Like asexuality is even on the kinsey scale, asexuals are not straight.

queer people = not straight and or not cis

asexuals =/ straight, because straight = heterosexual

If you want to go by the 'oppressed sexual and gender minorities' definition:

It's not a competition, but asexuals suffer from stigma and prejudice too.

Asexuality is incredibly pathologized and not taken seriously, especially in men. 
There are people more equipped to explain this, but asexual youths go through many of the same cycles as other lgbt+ youth and experience rejection and shame because of who they are.
U can be asexual and straight tho, its usually just an undercategory of straight/gay/bi I guess 
depends on definition i guess, like if you want to identify as straight do what u wanna do, but in my opinion straight = heterosexual and hetero romantic if you want to use the split attraction model (which is a whole other discussion) and asexual isn't in the straight category. Everything is a spectrum, etc blabla and it's debatable where the whole demisexual, gray-whatever stuff falls (which is why I'm not sure all those super specific labels are even helpful anymore), but asexuals belong in the lgtb+ community in my opinion.
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Arthema wrote:
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haha lol, i felt like the hijab one and the gender one would be most controversial and was kind of afraid to post them but i'm surprised most ppl reacted positive/neutral
I mean... I grew up in a very religious house and now that I'm out of it,
while I'm not an atheist... that shit is just... no.
and the hijab is "believing" you respect your religion.. connected to religion ofc
if the religion is oppressing women and a woman believes in it... lmao yeah that aint it sister
that's fine! i was raised religious too and this is how i see it:

i believe religion is very much about opressing women. of course, im not so radical to think that woman oppression is its central dogma, but yes, since religion is part of society, and Especially since it was created in an era that was so traditional and long ago; a lot of its beliefs have mysogynistic values. 

things such as premarital sex, covering yourself for God, are ideas that are not for this day and age anymore. and if women don't hold themselves to those scriptures, they get punished much more severely than men


no matter how i re-frame it, i think the very idea that only a woman should wear a hijab, but not a man, is sexist. i would have been fine if both men and women have to do it, like sikhism. but i cannot get behind this.


(ofc it's fine to disagree, again, just wanted to clarify my point)
nah nothing to disagree with here,
100% facts
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Arthema wrote:
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i can just tell how none of yall actually read about islam
Today's Islam that is actually implemented is not what is truly being worshipped
same with other religions
those religions are being used as tools to be in charge and have power over people,
the Quran can say that all men and women are equal, but men act like women are beneath them.
while the Quran has some beautiful things in it,
some people that involved with Islam has tainted it and made it all about power
and ofc it's not just Islam, it's so unfortunate as a lot of religions have something powerful in their core but some stuff is just like... huuhhhh????
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Arthema wrote:
hmm 12 is interesting
I wanna know why is that you're thinking this way.
I guess as a person on the ace spectrum or whatever it's called, I hate those labels and don't identify as a part of the community, but would love to hear a bit more about it.
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Koolaid wrote:
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Plastic surgery for anything but reconstruction or life-threatening reasons is bad and often addictive. It also almost always just reaffirms the eurocentric beauty standards. It also seems like in today's society the body is seen as a fashion accessory instead of an actual human body and is regularly treated as such, doing life-threatening surgeries for the vainest stupid things. (Like a BLL's which I honestly think shouldn't even be allowed) It is also often done for the male gaze and honestly, no one has been able to convince me otherwise... 
yes also agree
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Koolaid wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
kinda scared for your opinion on nb people lol
@Sylvan i copied this from someone else cause they said it rlly well and i honestly can't say it better so;

I know this is an extremely delicate issue, and I truly do not want to hurt anyone, but I get so frustrated with the way that the LGBT community talks about gender.One of my issues is this idea that gender is some innate spectrum of feelings thal exists in nature, rather than a social construct.

But what would "woman" even feel like? How would you define or even vaguely describe this innate sense of feeling that makes one a woman? It doesn't exist. And nobody perfectly conforms to societal expectations of gender, especially the rigid, performative standards of femininity.

I remember back in 2020 sccing a video of aperson asking if they were not a woman, but instead non-binary,because they don't feel an innate, personal connection with she/ her pronouns, it justnever bothered them to be referred to as she/her, and they didn't think about it until they "realized" they were supposed to. But that's literally being a cis person. Nobody is innately connected to socially constructed, gendered language.

So now, we have people who are completely indistinguishable from gender conforming cispeople in literally every way except labels, calling themselves trans. And I don't think it's right to appropriate the label of an incredibly oppressed minority with very specific material needs, turning it into an abstract identity that literally anyone and everyone can choose to fit into

They do not face any form of transphobia or transmisogyny, nor do they have the same material needs as trans people, simply because they don't feel a particular way.


And I totally understand rejecting gender as an abolitionist, political position! But it doesn't necessarily make you a member of an opressed minority.
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Koolaid wrote:
also she uses nb as an example but this holds for all neogenders
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Koolaid wrote:
oh and i forgot to tag @Abby sorry (read up)


@Sylvan  similar goes for asexuality. yes, asexuals face ridicule and bullying, but I do not believe asexuals have been oppressed in the same way homosexuals have. asexuals haven't been burnt at the stake, they don't have conversation therapy for asexuals. and no, this is in no way a 'who has it worse' battle. but i do believe that the presence of systemic oppression specifically plays an important factor.

i think asexuals/aromantics are their own group which is fine!
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Luna wrote:
Yeah there's definitely a few of these I don't agree with, but when completely detached from my own opinions I can understand your reasoning from an objective standpoint.

Happy new year, btw!
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Koolaid wrote:
Luna wrote:
Yeah there's definitely a few of these I don't agree with, but when completely detached from my own opinions I can understand your reasoning from an objective standpoint.

Happy new year, btw!
haha, thanks!!
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Koolaid wrote:
and i know i currently sound like a TERF going 'you are not traaans!!!' to ppl, but i promise i'm not like that and i don't agree with TERFs. i would never go up to someone and deny them their gender. 

but this is just me reasoning abt things from a more critical/objective pov, trying to analyze the repercussions of these developments and how it has (re)shaped things like gender, identity, lgbt etc.
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Lemon wrote:
religion is not a choice = the only religions i know are christianity n islam
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