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SimCityPoliceStation wrote:
I'm so sorry to hear that :-( Really happy she got out of that situation and I hope she doesn't have to deal woth that again!

acidreflux wrote:
yeah because they don't see how much violence actually happens to women if there isn't a threat of consequence to the actions men do to women.
i've had friends who got beaten nearly to death by their bfs and only w the threat of prison time was enough to get it stop.

Lemon wrote:
well in turkey nearly everyday a woman is killed and with the massive amount of money flooding into police forces, none of the men are stopped by police. they are released after a talk or two. no consequences. i dont think the justice can be grasped through police force, laws must be enforced for men to have consequences
meanwhile in turkey: armored police cars are bulldozing over students in universities just bc the students do not want a rector that is sent by the government without an election done

acidreflux wrote:
i've talked abt my perspectives
that doesn't mean i'm not aware of the literal horrors that's happening elsewhere.

acidreflux wrote:
half of my family is either in law enforcement or health care services, so he quickly realised he should back off.

hungover wrote:
Genuine question,

Acab isn't about every cop as an individual, it's about how truly rotten and corrupt the police force is. How can you disagree with that?

apologies if you've answered this before!

hungover wrote:
Also, I somewhat agree with your point about asexuality / aromantic people.

If they're cis, asexual and heteroromantic, they're not LGBTQ+ however, if they're asexual and bi/homoromantic, they're of course queer. Does that make sense? I'm a bit tired, sorry.

Koolaid wrote:
@hungover    i dont agree with acab and "____ all men": i think those statements are inflammatory and counterproductive. if all men, then also all women, because we ALL exist under the patriarchy and are influenced by it. 

radicalists want police abolition but that's never gonna happen. and we need to settle for compromise. ACAB relays no desire for any sort of compromise. also we need more black people as police, but this way black ppl are shamed out of taking it as a job bc of sentiments like this. which only excarcebates the issue of racism that we want to solve.

i understand the intention of acab, but intention often gets misrepresented. when blm was at its height there was very much the sentiment that if u want to be a cop, regardless of ur race/gender, ur a bad person. as a result, it drives marginalized ppl out of a career that very much needs marginalized ppl

hungover wrote:
The intention does get misused, I agree.
I personally believe good people can become cops with pure intentions, but the profession will corrupt them over time, it's an unbalanced power structure that I don't agree with, no one should have more power than someone else ; Steven who's a cop shouldn't have more rights than Frank who works at the kiosk, at least that's what I believe.

Koolaid wrote:
yes i do agree. but at the same time, i also want more marginalized ppl in the police force. it's a difficult situation. bc the only way i can see this going is that all the 'socially progressive' ppl stay away from cop careers, which as a result, more racist people will choose/stay in cop careers. i just feel it has an adverse effect.

i do agree that police can get away with way too much.

I can understand that, getting a more diverse force would be great, though I still think there's an unhealthy power structure that shouldn't be there, and I find it difficult to see a way to dismantle that.

Thank you for wanting to have this conversation! I really enjoy getting to know other people's views and beliefs.