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PETITION I'm not buying credits until Kaj fix
Onyxius
Streetmusician



I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of this petition. Its not about the victims who got their social media exposed, it's about kaj making the site more secure. It's absurd that someone gets a ban and keeps spamming a whole site, telling people to get cancer 10 times a minute without being stopped. This could happen to the English or the German server to.. We just want a more secure site where everyone can feel save without having to deal with hackers,spammers or just annoying individuals  
Requentes
Youtube star



Onyxius wrote:
I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of this petition. Its not about the victims who got their social media exposed, it's about kaj making the site more secure. It's absurd that someone get a ban and keeps spamming a whole site, telling people to get cancer 10 times a minute without being stopped. This could happen to the English or the German server to.. We just want a more secure site where everyone can feel save without having to deal with hackers,spammers or just annoying individuals  

Deemxoxo
Youtube star



callum wrote:
Deemxoxo wrote:
Dracarys wrote:
You need to be more careful about what you share.
Wooooooow victim blaming muchhhhhhhh
it's not fair for y'all to say we're blaming you when we are just discussing the importance of being more safe online
It has nothing to do with being more safe online tho. Most people were very safe with sharing personal stuff (and didn't share anything except for their first name), but somehow he managed to find it. And even if you share more personal information to close VP friends, these things shouldn't happen. 

But the thing is that most information can be easily found, I agree, but that does not mean that someone should link the information to accounts and send it to the whole server again and again. But, those things can happen if someone wants to. Buuuuttttt our problem is that the spammer is still able to spread people's privacy sensitive information through VP. It started like 40 hours ago or something and it is up to the community's Admin to make sure that the privacy of its players is protected. Kaj doesn't do anything about that and that's so wrong. This is already very harmful, but imagine what other things could be sent to a lot of players through VP mail if there isn't a (temporary) system to stop players like him. If someone has wrong intentions, this website is reallllllly not safe. And Kaj's just sitting there counting is money from people that care more about pixel outfits than about ethics and in the meanwhile he lets things like this happen on HIS community. 

You can say whatever you want about being safe online and of course all those things are fair, but the main problem that the topic maker and other people are stating is the problem about Kaj not taking responsibility for this shit and let his platform being used for harmful purposes. That's our problem.
Worldglobe
International star



MasileinDE wrote:
theBlondeSalad wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

Yes

DON'T SHARE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET!!!

They teach this to kindergarten kids, clearly the adults still don't know about it though...
are you seriously throwing shade towards the people that got their personal info blasted to the entire server?
please read this thread back a bit and then hopefully you'll reconsider this comment honestly

if that wasn't your intention, great because it shouldn't be

kind of
share a teeny tiny bit and risk it getting tracked down
it's the rules of the internet
don't like, don't go online


also, I know you all just want the admins to prevent someone from entering the site, but that won't make the problem of people being too careless with their information go away
as harsh as this may sound, but this is a great teaching moment for some of them
Of course people should be carfeul with spreading personal information etc. but it's still really fucked up that this person can come back whenever he wants and spam literally the whole server with the personal information. And like spam as in soooo many freaking messages per minute. And even when that person has a ban, that account still sent out mails which is bloody annoying. Shit should be done against this person. This is not allowed and Kaj should really step up his game. 
Private
World famous



Requentes wrote:
Also guys, please remember that the problem is not the fact that information was shared on a whole server but that it's literally possible to spam users and send hundreds of thousands messages in a short amount of time.

Like, we had a few weeks ago that the person who did this, send us to a NewsTeam article saying "hahahaha your cancer moms" and we all got that over 100 times in less than 2 or 3 minutes. And the worst thing of that is that this spammer got banned and keeps coming back. The fact that this is possible to do is just sad. 

Again: The whole thing is not about people getting their info leaked but about getting spammed and Kaj not doing anything about this.
Okay, this makes a lot more sense now. The fact that Kaj isn't capable of/can't be bothered to do something about this just shows how little he cares about the site.
TheBlondeSalad
Youtube star



MasileinDE wrote:
theBlondeSalad wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

Yes

DON'T SHARE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET!!!

They teach this to kindergarten kids, clearly the adults still don't know about it though...
are you seriously throwing shade towards the people that got their personal info blasted to the entire server?
please read this thread back a bit and then hopefully you'll reconsider this comment honestly

if that wasn't your intention, great because it shouldn't be

kind of
share a teeny tiny bit and risk it getting tracked down
it's the rules of the internet
don't like, don't go online


also, I know you all just want the admins to prevent someone from entering the site, but that won't make the problem of people being too careless with their information go away
as harsh as this may sound, but this is a great teaching moment for some of them
sharing your fist name =/= being deserving of being targeted by a spammer who shares a lot more than just your first name with the entire server 

but let's stick to agree to disagree because I don't need to see more victim blaming comments honestly. yes online security is important, but I shouldn't have to be scared to share a teensy tiny bit of personal info (as in idk "I study law" because it might back track to someone exposing my phone number and where I live).
Account deleted




theBlondeSalad wrote:
Dracarys wrote:
beyondeternal wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how was the spammer able to get the personal info and the photos our of the users if VP is using 3rd party payment system(Paysafecard or PayPal)?

For example, in my case, I'm using PayPal to buy credits. Upon purchase, I would be redirected to the PayPal website, and needed to login to process my purchase.

The only "personal" information that PayPal can respond back to VP payment system through are probably the name, and email address of the person who purchased. I am assuming that Paysafecard uses similar concept.

So I was really wondering how was it possible for the spammer to get the personal info of the users themselves, including the photos.
Sounds like the person is finding the photos and other information based on personal info that VP users willingly share. There's nothing Kaj or VP can do about that. 
Please read this thread back a bit more carefully. Several "solutions" have been proposed that should work. In addition, this isn't a "new" problem. This spammer has been active for a long period now, and that Kaj choose to ignore it when it was basically just a lot of swearing and disrespectful comments........ I guess I can sort of accept that, but now personal information is being spammed around the site multiple times in a short time span Kaj should take action and he can.
Okay I understand. I only saw one viable solution, but I don't think that blocking the mailing feature would work. People create new accounts all the time to claim codes and send items to themselves. It doesn't take that long to become a youtube star. Would that really stop someone that is already going through so much trouble to compile this info, evade bans and harass people? 
MasileinDE
International star



ok, clearly I get the asshole card for not cuddling people for making mistakes that literally are written in the rules, so I'm out of here
but just consider why this is not so much VP's issue as it is your personal one




(and about the spam, because you all say you only care about the spam, but then again you make the biggest point about people feeling unsafe because now everyone knows who they are, make up your mind, the spam issue is being handled as best as the admins and mods on VP can. but I can promise you, Kaj doesn't care a single bit about your private problems - which this is - and trying to find a fault in the admins and mods is just as unnice as me saying "maybe don't share your data if you don't want people to be able to track you down";)
XLolox
International star



what strikes me is that on the Dutch server everyone is supportive, & really want this problem (and many more) to be fixed. But here on the English server, & I'm not trying to be mean whatsoever, but you'll don't seem to understand the problem... and you are doing your best not to understand, you'll are not even TRYING. All the problems going on/around VP, we want them to be gone & feel safe on a platform we enjoy spending time.   (Tried my best with my English)
MasileinDE
International star



theBlondeSalad wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
theBlondeSalad wrote:
are you seriously throwing shade towards the people that got their personal info blasted to the entire server?
please read this thread back a bit and then hopefully you'll reconsider this comment honestly

if that wasn't your intention, great because it shouldn't be

kind of
share a teeny tiny bit and risk it getting tracked down
it's the rules of the internet
don't like, don't go online


also, I know you all just want the admins to prevent someone from entering the site, but that won't make the problem of people being too careless with their information go away
as harsh as this may sound, but this is a great teaching moment for some of them
sharing your fist name =/= being deserving of being targeted by a spammer who shares a lot more than just your first name with the entire server 

but let's stick to agree to disagree because I don't need to see more victim blaming comments honestly. yes online security is important, but I shouldn't have to be scared to share a teensy tiny bit of personal info (as in idk "I study law" because it might back track to someone exposing my phone number and where I live).
you should actually
just so you know
Deemxoxo
Youtube star



Deemxoxo wrote:
callum wrote:
Deemxoxo wrote:
Wooooooow victim blaming muchhhhhhhh
it's not fair for y'all to say we're blaming you when we are just discussing the importance of being more safe online
It has nothing to do with being more safe online tho. Most people were very safe with sharing personal stuff (and didn't share anything except for their first name), but somehow he managed to find it. And even if you share more personal information to close VP friends, these things shouldn't happen. 

But the thing is that most information can be easily found, I agree, but that does not mean that someone should link the information to accounts and send it to the whole server again and again. But, those things can happen if someone wants to. Buuuuttttt our problem is that the spammer is still able to spread people's privacy sensitive information through VP. It started like 40 hours ago or something and it is up to the community's Admin to make sure that the privacy of its players is protected. Kaj doesn't do anything about that and that's so wrong. This is already very harmful, but imagine what other things could be sent to a lot of players through VP mail if there isn't a (temporary) system to stop players like him. If someone has wrong intentions, this website is reallllllly not safe. And Kaj's just sitting there counting is money from people that care more about pixel outfits than about ethics and in the meanwhile he lets things like this happen on HIS community. 

You can say whatever you want about being safe online and of course all those things are fair, but the main problem that the topic maker and other people are stating is the problem about Kaj not taking responsibility for this shit and let his platform being used for harmful purposes. That's our problem.
And if it's still not clear to some of you that keep saying that Kaj can't do anything about people 'not being safe with sharing social media/personal info', than they clearly do not want to understand the problem. It's not that hard and I guess it is already explained like 20 times here. 

But sure, go on supporting Kaj with your money while he doesn't care about this community at all. If you feel good doing that, be my guest. Hope these things won't happen on this server and that you can share whatever you want without it being used against you <3 
Requentes
Youtube star



BloomCissi wrote:
Requentes wrote:
Also guys, please remember that the problem is not the fact that information was shared on a whole server but that it's literally possible to spam users and send hundreds of thousands messages in a short amount of time.

Like, we had a few weeks ago that the person who did this, send us to a NewsTeam article saying "hahahaha your cancer moms" and we all got that over 100 times in less than 2 or 3 minutes. And the worst thing of that is that this spammer got banned and keeps coming back. The fact that this is possible to do is just sad. 

Again: The whole thing is not about people getting their info leaked but about getting spammed and Kaj not doing anything about this.
Okay, this makes a lot more sense now. The fact that Kaj isn't capable of/can't be bothered to do something about this just shows how little he cares about the site.
Like it is possible for example to limited messages you can send, and once you reach a certain level you can message people because I bet that nobody is gonna sit down for 2 or 3 days to gain fans just to spam people and repeat the process. 
But the fact that Kaj doesn't sit down just to think about what's happening and going on here and just fixes this shit is really sad. 
Deemxoxo
Youtube star



xLolox wrote:
what strikes me is that on the Dutch server everyone is supportive, & really want this problem (and many more) to be fixed. But here on the English server, & I'm not trying to be mean whatsoever, but you'll don't seem to understand the problem... and you are doing your best not to understand, you'll are not even TRYING. All the problems going on/around VP, we want them to be gone & feel safe on a platform we enjoy spending time.   (Tried my best with my English)
Nope but idk this server is always acting so differently than the Dutch server in general 

so idk why anyone thought they would understand

but watch if something similar happens on this server lmao 

ethics are always really a thing on this server but i guess that only counts when it concerns themselves 
TheBlondeSalad
Youtube star



MasileinDE wrote:
ok, clearly I get the asshole card for not cuddling people for making mistakes that literally are written in the rules, so I'm out of here
but just consider why this is not so much VP's issue as it is your personal one




(and about the spam, because you all say you only care about the spam, but then again you make the biggest point about people feeling unsafe because now everyone knows who they are, make up your mind, the spam issue is being handled as best as the admins and mods on VP can. but I can promise you, Kaj doesn't care a single bit about your private problems - which this is - and trying to find a fault in the admins and mods is just as unnice as me saying "maybe don't share your data if you don't want people to be able to track you down"
I've always been very careful with sharing my data online, literally no one on vp even knows my first name - but this is not solely a personal problem and I think it's strange you call it that. It should not be possible that someone is able to spam the entire website this much, and I can sort of understand ignorance if it's used for shitty but relatively innocent purposes of swearing at a bunch of random people - but at this point, ignorance and unwillingness to stop a person exploiting a weakness in your site for the sole purpose of hurting others is very very wrong in my eyes
Private
World famous



Requentes wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Requentes wrote:
Also guys, please remember that the problem is not the fact that information was shared on a whole server but that it's literally possible to spam users and send hundreds of thousands messages in a short amount of time.

Like, we had a few weeks ago that the person who did this, send us to a NewsTeam article saying "hahahaha your cancer moms" and we all got that over 100 times in less than 2 or 3 minutes. And the worst thing of that is that this spammer got banned and keeps coming back. The fact that this is possible to do is just sad. 

Again: The whole thing is not about people getting their info leaked but about getting spammed and Kaj not doing anything about this.
Okay, this makes a lot more sense now. The fact that Kaj isn't capable of/can't be bothered to do something about this just shows how little he cares about the site.
Like it is possible for example to limited messages you can send, and once you reach a certain level you can message people because I bet that nobody is gonna sit down for 2 or 3 days to gain fans just to spam people and repeat the process. 
But the fact that Kaj doesn't sit down just to think about what's happening and going on here and just fixes this shit is really sad. 
Would that really help if the person hacked the site though? Or was that fixed after the English server was hacked?
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