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pupa wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
pupa wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
the discord server was an unofficial one, and was never connected to the mods/admins on-site in that regard.
from what i gather, the server was deleted as the owner felt that it was not being used as intended, and moderating it was becoming a lot of work.
no offense or anything but how was it being moderated when no messages were being sent in that sever (it was dead)
My guess is that it wasnt used and since joob (who got a TO without a proper explanation as to why) started writing in it the mod who originally created it decided to delete it altogether 
right?? do u live in my brain or something??? 😂 exactly what i was thinking
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whydoiexist wrote:
You cant expect respect towards your team when you dont respect your userbase.
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Arthema wrote:
There's just way too many problems with how things are being handled rn and adding more moderators
2 that the majority of the active userbase does not know
1 that basically seemed not active at all until a few days ago
another that just passed the bootcamp? from my understanding

Not stating those as a "nooo those users are HORRIBLE" as I have literally 0 clue who they are,
And that is a big problem.
When the trust of the people here in the mods is compromised.. It just seems like such a risky choice that might further hurt and make the goal of gaining the users trust in the mods
It just seems like we are yet again regressing with that.

Enforcing such harsh "rules" all of the sudden seems also so not fair, It got worse with time just because the ones that should've taken proper care of things never did, or it was half assed, or happened after so many people complained.
Users complained again and again and again and it IS a problem I HAVE talked about with the admins already, but nothing was done, instead of talking to the people, and listening, there is a wall, and when people decide to act on their own, only then something happens? like..

Why take a shortcut with people that know the "job" instead of investing a bit in people that the community trusts and teach them what they need?
I am certain that there are users here that the community knows, maybe even loves, that could be reliable enough and trusted by the staff and by the userbase
I'm sure that who Clavicle chose will do well with the moderator part but what about the interactions with the community? as far as I remember being here for years by now without taking breaks, the only mod that was actually trying to always interact with people despite the "blue name" was Kofod, until he had his own thing and it stopped. 
We have no guarantee that anything will happen with that

Something with the initial team in itself is bad and I believe that the trust in some users that were there for years by now will not recover, ever.
So adding more people when the community is barely alive,
The addition is people that no one knows or chose,
An addition that the people were not aware of nor did any have a say in it,
when the integral issue of the mod team- userbase relationship's problem is the trust..
It's all a nice recipe for disaster in short

Why not do a complete overhaul? Yes it takes time to teach people but lo and behold, with the current activity we're seeing here it is REALLY not that bad if there will be actual new people, because there is not much trouble going around, just the occasional argument here and there

You want actual progress? stop with the shortcuts, give us a bit more credit and respect, and it WILL come back, the whole "oh no blue name" will also disappear and things might get better
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Myrcella wrote:
remains wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
the discord server was an unofficial one, and was never connected to the mods/admins on-site in that regard.
from what i gather, the server was deleted as the owner felt that it was not being used as intended, and moderating it was becoming a lot of work.
it was official tho
Whydoiexist:
The discord server was, in fact, official. It was made by a mod when vp was facing some technical difficulties. 

it was originally intended to be official, but was never approved by Etjen so it never really became official in that sense. additionally, not all vp mods were moderating the server - only one.

but i understand why it would be a bit misleading of me to state it as unofficial, that was a bit unclear.

that being said - the decision to delete the server was the server owners decision alone, so i cannot speak on that unfortunately. 
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Arthema wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
pupa wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
the discord server was an unofficial one, and was never connected to the mods/admins on-site in that regard.
from what i gather, the server was deleted as the owner felt that it was not being used as intended, and moderating it was becoming a lot of work.
no offense or anything but how was it being moderated when no messages were being sent in that sever (it was dead)
My guess is that it wasnt used and since joob (who got a TO without a proper explanation as to why) started writing in it the mod who originally created it decided to delete it altogether 
Who made it? 
That seems like such a lazy choice, it is not hard to moderate a discord server, especially if the people there amount to some users from vp and especially if it was dead
Lol
Lmao even
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Myrcella wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
You cant expect respect towards your team when you dont respect your userbase.
that is very fair. i am box fresh and would very much appreciate a message on how i can do better in showing respect towards the userbase, and how we as a team can improve in that aspect.
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whydoiexist wrote:
Abby wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
pupa wrote:
no offense or anything but how was it being moderated when no messages were being sent in that sever (it was dead)
My guess is that it wasnt used and since joob (who got a TO without a proper explanation as to why) started writing in it the mod who originally created it decided to delete it altogether 
Who made it? 
That seems like such a lazy choice, it is not hard to moderate a discord server, especially if the people there amount to some users from vp and especially if it was dead
Lol
Lmao even
i believe it was libertas? im not quite sure but it was a mod for sure
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Arthema wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
Abby wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
My guess is that it wasnt used and since joob (who got a TO without a proper explanation as to why) started writing in it the mod who originally created it decided to delete it altogether 
Who made it? 
That seems like such a lazy choice, it is not hard to moderate a discord server, especially if the people there amount to some users from vp and especially if it was dead
Lol
Lmao even
i believe it was libertas? im not quite sure but it was a mod for sure
Doesn't matter actually who made it, what I say still stands
Really feels like someone waited for the right time or to have the right excuse to just press the red button
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Sylvan wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
You cant expect respect towards your team when you dont respect your userbase.
that is very fair. i am box fresh and would very much appreciate a message on how i can do better in showing respect towards the userbase, and how we as a team can improve in that aspect.
Not writing in the tone/lingo of facebook tech support would be good.
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talent wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
You cant expect respect towards your team when you dont respect your userbase.
that is very fair. i am box fresh and would very much appreciate a message on how i can do better in showing respect towards the userbase, and how we as a team can improve in that aspect.
Not writing in the tone/lingo of facebook tech support would be good.
this is also kind of why the whole "OMGGG MOD IN THE THREAD!" thing happens. so much typing like you need to be professional all the time. say poop or pee once in  awhile
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Arthema wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
You cant expect respect towards your team when you dont respect your userbase.
that is very fair. i am box fresh and would very much appreciate a message on how i can do better in showing respect towards the userbase, and how we as a team can improve in that aspect.
Not writing in the tone/lingo of facebook tech support would be good.
^^^
As much as it's understandable what is the nature of this thread, pls
This is not a support ticket 
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whydoiexist wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
remains wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
the discord server was an unofficial one, and was never connected to the mods/admins on-site in that regard.
from what i gather, the server was deleted as the owner felt that it was not being used as intended, and moderating it was becoming a lot of work.
it was official tho

it was originally intended to be official, but was never approved by Etjen so it never really became official in that sense. additionally, not all vp mods were moderating the server - only one.

but i understand why it would be a bit misleading of me to state it as unofficial, that was a bit unclear.

that being said - the decision to delete the server was the server owners decision alone, so i cannot speak on that unfortunately. 

It doesnt matter if it was approved by Etjen or not. The point still stands - it was officially made by a mod as a way to inform vp users as to what is happening when the site was crashing all the time. 
Its interesting how a mod suddenly decided to delete the server at the exact moment a user with TO started writing in it, isnt it?
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Sylvan wrote:
talent wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
that is very fair. i am box fresh and would very much appreciate a message on how i can do better in showing respect towards the userbase, and how we as a team can improve in that aspect.
Not writing in the tone/lingo of facebook tech support would be good.
this is also kind of why the whole "OMGGG MOD IN THE THREAD!" thing happens. so much typing like you need to be professional all the time. say poop or pee once in  awhile
what is it with vp and this poop fetish lmao
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Arthema wrote:
whydoiexist wrote:
Myrcella wrote:
remains wrote:
it was official tho

it was originally intended to be official, but was never approved by Etjen so it never really became official in that sense. additionally, not all vp mods were moderating the server - only one.

but i understand why it would be a bit misleading of me to state it as unofficial, that was a bit unclear.

that being said - the decision to delete the server was the server owners decision alone, so i cannot speak on that unfortunately. 

It doesnt matter if it was approved by Etjen or not. The point still stands - it was officially made by a mod as a way to inform vp users as to what is happening when the site was crashing all the time. 
Its interesting how a mod suddenly decided to delete the server at the exact moment a user with TO started writing in it, isnt it?
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Date: 30-05-2023 22:42
Talent
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talent wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
talent wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Not writing in the tone/lingo of facebook tech support would be good.
this is also kind of why the whole "OMGGG MOD IN THE THREAD!" thing happens. so much typing like you need to be professional all the time. say poop or pee once in  awhile
what is it with vp and this poop fetish lmao
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