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Basil
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Basil wrote:
also to answer your question, i know leopets (a neopets off shoot) is 10/month for the server and 10/year for the domain name. perhaps we can bump it up to 20/month for the server, considering how image heavy this site is.

250/year to keep the en server up. considering most 96 euro sets have around 3-6 in game minimum, and they are released once a month, there should be $480 minimum PER MONTH for just the 96 euro sets.

where is that money going
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Posts: 3930
Date: 29-11-2018 22:57
Ctrl
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ctrl wrote:
Basil wrote:
Diana wrote:
Snailman wrote:
diana what the fuck 
I think many of you been here for such a long time you're obsessed with blaming Kaj. I'm not saying what he is doing is perfect, but we gotta accept that it is his business. This is how he planned the site and it is how he is running it. Again, I'm not against suggestions, but I see absolutely no respect towards him from the community, which is sad, since he must've made something good, after all we joined the site and stayed?  
it's not an obsession with blaming kaj. it's that this man is running a site that is only alive because of the work of designers, who get nothing in return. all the profit he makes on this site comes from designers, and only solovey is paid for it. that's messed up. i don't care how you run a site, even the crappiest of sites still pay their content creators! because that's what you're supposed to do!

we don't 'gotta accept' anything. we are the userbase, and we deserve to be catered to when it is our money that is keeping the site afloat. it would take a minimal amount of funds to buy new features from the (several) coders that have been part of vp. 

it has nothing to do with personal style, or preference for the aesthetic he wants for this site. he wants to keep his costs minimal, and he knows solovey is one of the most popular designers so he only pays her. it is about profit, plain and simple.

why does he deserve respect? what has he done that deserves respect? chatting up underage users? scamming people? refusing to implement any changes, and attacking the en server (and recently abandoning it) when we try to give suggestions of what could be changed?

i love vp, but this attitude that we have to accept how poorly the site is managed is messed up. it's messed up for the designers who put in HOURS of work, it's messed up to the users who spend money, it's messed up for all of us who keep this site alive but get no new content. 
fucking aMEN
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Posts: 7142
Date: 29-11-2018 23:19
MadHatress
World famous



MadHatress wrote:
Basil wrote:
Diana wrote:
Snailman wrote:
diana what the fuck 
I think many of you been here for such a long time you're obsessed with blaming Kaj. I'm not saying what he is doing is perfect, but we gotta accept that it is his business. This is how he planned the site and it is how he is running it. Again, I'm not against suggestions, but I see absolutely no respect towards him from the community, which is sad, since he must've made something good, after all we joined the site and stayed?  
it's not an obsession with blaming kaj. it's that this man is running a site that is only alive because of the work of designers, who get nothing in return. all the profit he makes on this site comes from designers, and only solovey is paid for it. that's messed up. i don't care how you run a site, even the crappiest of sites still pay their content creators! because that's what you're supposed to do!

we don't 'gotta accept' anything. we are the userbase, and we deserve to be catered to when it is our money that is keeping the site afloat. it would take a minimal amount of funds to buy new features from the (several) coders that have been part of vp. 

it has nothing to do with personal style, or preference for the aesthetic he wants for this site. he wants to keep his costs minimal, and he knows solovey is one of the most popular designers so he only pays her. it is about profit, plain and simple.

why does he deserve respect? what has he done that deserves respect? chatting up underage users? scamming people? refusing to implement any changes, and attacking the en server (and recently abandoning it) when we try to give suggestions of what could be changed?

i love vp, but this attitude that we have to accept how poorly the site is managed is messed up. it's messed up for the designers who put in HOURS of work, it's messed up to the users who spend money, it's messed up for all of us who keep this site alive but get no new content. 
fucking amen omg
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Posts: 4909
Date: 29-11-2018 23:26
Snailman
Streetmusician



snailman wrote:
Basil wrote:
also to answer your question, i know leopets (a neopets off shoot) is 10/month for the server and 10/year for the domain name. perhaps we can bump it up to 20/month for the server, considering how image heavy this site is.

250/year to keep the en server up. considering most 96 euro sets have around 3-6 in game minimum, and they are released once a month, there should be $480 minimum PER MONTH for just the 96 euro sets.

where is that money going
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Posts: 9002
Date: 29-11-2018 23:27
MadHatress
World famous



MadHatress wrote:
Snailman wrote:
Basil wrote:
also to answer your question, i know leopets (a neopets off shoot) is 10/month for the server and 10/year for the domain name. perhaps we can bump it up to 20/month for the server, considering how image heavy this site is.

250/year to keep the en server up. considering most 96 euro sets have around 3-6 in game minimum, and they are released once a month, there should be $480 minimum PER MONTH for just the 96 euro sets.

where is that money going

maybe he also needs to pay rent? food? insurance? idk this is probably his main income
im not taking his side, i dont know anything about him either tbh

but if this is his job, then this is his main income as well, and some of that revenue he make gotta go to salaries. But yea, i see that maybe more should be spent on the actual site and development cause damn is this site stale some times
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Posts: 4909
Date: 29-11-2018 23:28 | Times changed: 1
Private
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vig wrote:
MadHatress wrote:maybe he also needs to pay rent? food? insurance? idk this is probably his main income
im not taking his side, i dont know anything about him either tbh

but if this is his job, then this is his main income as well, and some of that revenue he make gotta go to salaries. But yea, i see that maybe more should be spent on the actual site and development cause damn is this site stale some times
I remember long ago he believed in light therapy.... and that was his livelihood. This is more like his hobby.

(which wasnt the same same as using laser or photo-spec so)
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Posts: 22597
Date: 29-11-2018 23:35
MadHatress
World famous



MadHatress wrote:
vig wrote:
MadHatress wrote:maybe he also needs to pay rent? food? insurance? idk this is probably his main income
im not taking his side, i dont know anything about him either tbh

but if this is his job, then this is his main income as well, and some of that revenue he make gotta go to salaries. But yea, i see that maybe more should be spent on the actual site and development cause damn is this site stale some times
I remember long ago he believed in light therapy.... and that was his livelihood. This is more like his hobby.

(which wasnt the same same as using laser or photo-spec so)
light therapy? lol oh well, then he got no excuse if he got a job and this is just a hobby lol
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Posts: 4909
Date: 29-11-2018 23:48
Snailman
Streetmusician



snailman wrote:
MadHatress wrote:
vig wrote:
MadHatress wrote:maybe he also needs to pay rent? food? insurance? idk this is probably his main income
im not taking his side, i dont know anything about him either tbh

but if this is his job, then this is his main income as well, and some of that revenue he make gotta go to salaries. But yea, i see that maybe more should be spent on the actual site and development cause damn is this site stale some times
I remember long ago he believed in light therapy.... and that was his livelihood. This is more like his hobby.

(which wasnt the same same as using laser or photo-spec so)
light therapy? lol oh well, then he got no excuse if he got a job and this is just a hobby lol
yea he specifically said that he made this site for his then life partner, i imagine his main income is his alternative medicine scam, his stie should come up if u search his name on google
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Posts: 9002
Date: 29-11-2018 23:56
Stargurl
Streetmusician



stargurl wrote:
what happened to all the drama
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Posts: 206
Date: 29-11-2018 23:57
Ctrl
Youtube star



ctrl wrote:
MadHatress wrote:
Snailman wrote:
Basil wrote:
also to answer your question, i know leopets (a neopets off shoot) is 10/month for the server and 10/year for the domain name. perhaps we can bump it up to 20/month for the server, considering how image heavy this site is.

250/year to keep the en server up. considering most 96 euro sets have around 3-6 in game minimum, and they are released once a month, there should be $480 minimum PER MONTH for just the 96 euro sets.

where is that money going

maybe he also needs to pay rent? food? insurance? idk this is probably his main income
im not taking his side, i dont know anything about him either tbh

but if this is his job, then this is his main income as well, and some of that revenue he make gotta go to salaries. But yea, i see that maybe more should be spent on the actual site and development cause damn is this site stale some times
this site should not be for his personal expenses, it runs itself
it's not his "job" because he does pretty much nothing on here 
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Posts: 7142
Date: 29-11-2018 23:59
Stargurl
Streetmusician



stargurl wrote:
stargurl wrote:
what happened to all the drama
like remember discord and the burn blogs and all that? good times.....
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Posts: 206
Date: 30-11-2018 00:00
Allie
Queen of Pop



Allie wrote:
Yoko wrote:
if ppl buying huge credit sets knew about the magic cancer lights and how theyre funding it do u think they would still buy them lol
I am aware. 
The people who buy arent stupid. 
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Posts: 33322
Date: 30-11-2018 00:04 | Times changed: 1
Ctrl
Youtube star



ctrl wrote:
stargurl wrote:
stargurl wrote:
what happened to all the drama
like remember discord and the burn blogs and all that? good times.....
there are discords but they aren't much about drama, just chatting n stuff
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Posts: 7142
Date: 30-11-2018 00:05
Private
World famous



Yoko wrote:
September wrote:
Yoko wrote:
if ppl buying huge credit sets knew about the magic cancer lights and how theyre funding it do u think they would still buy them lol
I am aware. 
The people who buy arent stupid. 
if you're one of those people i didn't call u stupid  but i think ur morals r fucked
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Posts: 23197
Date: 30-11-2018 00:05
Allie
Queen of Pop



Allie wrote:
Yoko wrote:
September wrote:
Yoko wrote:
if ppl buying huge credit sets knew about the magic cancer lights and how theyre funding it do u think they would still buy them lol
I am aware. 
The people who buy arent stupid. 
if you're one of those people i didn't call u stupid  but i think ur morals r fucked
Otherwise i wouldn’t say i’m aware.
I spend my money, i waste my money, on whatever i want and for a fact that’s no one else’s business at all. And i do not have to say that with swearwords. 
I have No problem giving away my money. Because i do not Want this site to close down as gosupermodel did. If kaj feels he is making money of this he wont shut it down. Now dont get me wrong. Im not a fan of kaj or his view on stuff.
But cr set people have their reasons. Doesn’t mean they dont see clear as you made it sound like so do not bring us into the kaj issue. Thanks.
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Date: 30-11-2018 00:10 | Times changed: 2
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