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the poland missile strike
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Limbs wrote:
how are yall feeling about that & who do you think is to blame? not that anyone on vp would know but. i'm anxious and want to discuss
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Date: 16-11-2022 22:45
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Kit wrote:
i mean didn't nato come out and say ukraine fired the missile to defend against russian attacks and that they still blame russia ???

but yeah definitely very worrisome i agree
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:01
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Arthema wrote:
Basically a missle from Ukraine
Russia is still blamed

I'm so fed up with that whole crisis is what and how orchestrated it all is
I'm tired of losing family and friends
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:06
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
i just find it weird how if russia is the one who accidentally hit poland, all hell would break loose, but if ukraine accidentally hits poland its like oh ok... lets move on

like neither russia or ukraine r nato countries . so if a nato country is hit then surely the response should b the same
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:07
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
anyway the situation is a mess and i cant talk about the ukraine/russia conflict without getting angry tbh. fortunately, it doesnt seem like this incident is gonna get nato involved, thank god
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:08
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
also the AUDACITYYYYYYYYYY for the usa to come out and say russia 'ultimately bears responsibility' for the strike regardless of who it actually came from

like take a look in the mirror babes . where is the accountability

u asked who do i think is to blame - if anyone is to blame for this WHOLE thing its the usa n nato
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:15 | Times changed: 1
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Soratheria wrote:
its so stupid lol, ukraine stop doing stupid shit with nato and join the eu, russia take luhansk and donzek if u really need to and both of u stop being so fucking annoying 
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:28
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Soratheria wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
also the AUDACITYYYYYYYYYY for the usa to come out and say russia 'ultimately bears responsibility' for the strike regardless of who it actually came from

like take a look in the mirror babes . where is the accountability

u asked who do i think is to blame - if anyone is to blame for this WHOLE thing its the usa n nato
mh i mean just because the us bombed (and bombs) innocent countries too doesn't mean that it's okay for russia to do so 
and russia is actually responsible but tf will russia care cuz a few people died in poland when they are literally at war lol thats again so stupid
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:29
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
Soratheria wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
also the AUDACITYYYYYYYYYY for the usa to come out and say russia 'ultimately bears responsibility' for the strike regardless of who it actually came from

like take a look in the mirror babes . where is the accountability

u asked who do i think is to blame - if anyone is to blame for this WHOLE thing its the usa n nato
mh i mean just because the us bombed (and bombs) innocent countries too doesn't mean that it's okay for russia to do so 
and russia is actually responsible but tf will russia care cuz a few people died in poland when they are literally at war lol thats again so stupid
i dont think the us is to blame because it bombed/bombs innocent countries
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:46
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Limited wrote:
it's fucked, it was Ukraine who did it, but still its Russia who will take all the blame, lol
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Date: 16-11-2022 23:50
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wug wrote:
yikes
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Date: 17-11-2022 00:08
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Kit wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i just find it weird how if russia is the one who accidentally hit poland, all hell would break loose, but if ukraine accidentally hits poland its like oh ok... lets move on

like neither russia or ukraine r nato countries . so if a nato country is hit then surely the response should b the same
well .... i think it's bc it was an accident and the missile they fired was to defend against a recent and maaaasssive russian attack. meanwhile russia's missiles are purely offensive and aggressive
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Date: 17-11-2022 00:27
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Kit wrote:
its like..... imagine if there's a school shooter and there's also Bob who is trying to shoot the school shooter

and Bob accidentally shoots a bystander

its like. yes that person still got shot and that is terrible. and you might argue that Bob is still partially culpable

but not to the same degree as the school shooter who initiated the violence

sorry if this example means nothing to y'all non-americans tho my bad
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Date: 17-11-2022 00:34
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Sobbing wrote:
Kit wrote:
its like..... imagine if there's a school shooter and there's also Bob who is trying to shoot the school shooter

and Bob accidentally shoots a bystander

its like. yes that person still got shot and that is terrible. and you might argue that Bob is still partially culpable

but not to the same degree as the school shooter who initiated the violence

sorry if this example means nothing to y'all non-americans tho my bad
yea but ur disregarding the responsibility the firearm bob user has if hes wielding a gun
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Date: 17-11-2022 00:58
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Kit wrote:
Sobbing wrote:
Kit wrote:
its like..... imagine if there's a school shooter and there's also Bob who is trying to shoot the school shooter

and Bob accidentally shoots a bystander

its like. yes that person still got shot and that is terrible. and you might argue that Bob is still partially culpable

but not to the same degree as the school shooter who initiated the violence

sorry if this example means nothing to y'all non-americans tho my bad
yea but ur disregarding the responsibility the firearm bob user has if hes wielding a gun
ok but in this situation it's more like... the entire school got together to buy bob the gun specifically to shoot the school shooter

and again i'm not arguing that ukraine has zero responsibility here. just that russia clearly has more
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Date: 17-11-2022 01:29
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Babel wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i just find it weird how if russia is the one who accidentally hit poland, all hell would break loose, but if ukraine accidentally hits poland its like oh ok... lets move on

like neither russia or ukraine r nato countries . so if a nato country is hit then surely the response should b the same
It has everything to do with intent and whether the country actually feels threatened. Hitting Poland in a defense from war vs. hitting Poland in an act of war are very very different in the international community (and actually also according to the law) and so the important thing isn't the accident part but the intent.
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Date: 17-11-2022 01:54
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