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why being vegetarian?
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also like on the moral side of thing even as a vegan you're going to work really fucking hard to do completely moral eating because it's not like the humans harvesting ur tomatoes and soy beans or whatever are working under 100% humane conditions for sure, so maybe u just draw the line at killing and just go vegetarian uknow
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disintegration wrote:
I see no reason why I shouldn't eat eggs (especially if you have your own chickens lol) or honey also it's not cheap and easy to have healthy vegan diet no matter how much influencers pretend it is. 
This !
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Ike ive been on a lokal milk "farm" and theres no bad stuff going on there so even for moral reasons I wouldn't feel bad drinking that milk
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I don't see the issue with milk and eggs
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C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I don't see the issue with milk and eggs
factory farming 
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Duerer wrote:
callum wrote:
callum wrote:
because its what they want to eat...
like not every1 goes vegan or veggie for "moral" reasons (i forgot the better wording)
of course ! thats what i meant by 'health issues'

but vegetarian because of moral reasons - don't get that
hmmmmm true! but what about if a person farms their own animals and uses stuff like milk and eggs that come from their animals? that way they dont support the industry and use the animals in an ethical way, whilst still eating eggs n shit
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Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I don't see the issue with milk and eggs
factory farming 
In norway they get milk from local farms (at least tine does) n im pretty sure there r strong regulations, its not factory farming 
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Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I don't see the issue with milk and eggs
factory farming 
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
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And if I knew that where I got my milk from was from some place with shit conditions I wouldn't buy it, but since I know where I get mine from isn't bad I don't have any issues with it
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C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I don't see the issue with milk and eggs
factory farming 
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
In the end cows milk is not made for humans but for the calves. for the cow to give milk it needs to have calves - for us to get that milk the calves need to take away ... 
its like giving birth to child, that'll be taken away and then take the women breasts milk lol
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C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I don't see the issue with milk and eggs
factory farming 
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
with milk (and eggs) the animal will suffer ... 
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Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Duerer wrote:
factory farming 
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
with milk (and eggs) the animal will suffer ... 
No, that's not a given
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C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
with milk (and eggs) the animal will suffer ... 
No, that's not a given
in the end its unnatural and physical stress for the animals
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Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
Duerer wrote:
factory farming 
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
In the end cows milk is not made for humans but for the calves. for the cow to give milk it needs to have calves - for us to get that milk the calves need to take away ... 
its like giving birth to child, that'll be taken away and then take the women breasts milk lol
Ive literally been on a milk farm, thats not how its done here 
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ouch wrote:
Duerer wrote:
C4TH3DR4L wrote:
I have honestly never seen or heard of anything here at least where the cows etc were treated badly. If they are, it's the same as pet owners who mistreat animals it's not exclusive to farms?

However with meat the animal die no matter what so I don't eat that stuff
In the end cows milk is not made for humans but for the calves. for the cow to give milk it needs to have calves - for us to get that milk the calves need to take away ... 
its like giving birth to child, that'll be taken away and then take the women breasts milk lol
Ive literally been on a milk farm, thats not how its done here 
then i have to apologize of course. how do you get the milk then?
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