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Is passivity an underrated quality?
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Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Juniper wrote:
Sometimes it’s smart
But no we need to prove that we are dominant so we have to reject this quality sorry 
Is the opposite of passive really dominant tho? I think dominant and active/engaged aren't synonyms, they somewhat overlap but I wouldn't say passivity and submission is the same thing
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:48
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wug wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
mikkelrev wrote:
only cowards chose to have no opinions or stances so no
Who's to say passive people dont hold opinions? Maybe they're being quiet b/c they know voicing their opinion will bring about change and might even escalate matters. Ever consider working behind the scenes and taking action does more than preaching to the choir in certain scenarios? 

Is it always bad to have no stance? Ever think some people are too damn opinionated? Maybe shit isnt that deep. Maybe you're overreacting. Maybe it'd be better to wait until u have more details and info rather than assume? 
Opinions are wasted on people who doesn't argue for them or even attempt to do anything without other people taking lead. 
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:49
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Like there is determination in being submissive, it's a decision or forced upon whereas passivity is just not caring, not engaging
Good point, see what you mean 

Sometimes I think people care way too much, maybe paying so much attention to assholes makes the problem worse. If they're not an immediate threat ignore them. There can be power in that because although ignoring someone is a passive act, isnt that taking power and attention away from that person and giving it to yourself?
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:51
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wrote:
Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Juniper wrote:
Sometimes it’s smart
But no we need to prove that we are dominant so we have to reject this quality sorry 
Is the opposite of passive really dominant tho? I think dominant and active/engaged aren't synonyms, they somewhat overlap but I wouldn't say passivity and submission is the same thing
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
Idk, not having to voice an opinion (sometimes existing is seen as such a thing) often comes from privilege, you have to be able to afford not having an opinion on things
Date: 18-08-2020 01:51
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wug wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Like there is determination in being submissive, it's a decision or forced upon whereas passivity is just not caring, not engaging
oh yeah
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:52
Juniper
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Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Is the opposite of passive really dominant tho? I think dominant and active/engaged aren't synonyms, they somewhat overlap but I wouldn't say passivity and submission is the same thing
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
Idk, not having to voice an opinion (sometimes existing is seen as such a thing) often comes from privilege, you have to be able to afford not having an opinion on things
Yes which is why we should always say our opinion 
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:53
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Is the opposite of passive really dominant tho? I think dominant and active/engaged aren't synonyms, they somewhat overlap but I wouldn't say passivity and submission is the same thing
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
Idk, not having to voice an opinion (sometimes existing is seen as such a thing) often comes from privilege, you have to be able to afford not having an opinion on things
That's an interesting point. I'll have to think about that. Not convinced it's always true but see how it could be. 
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:55
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Maxwell wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Like there is determination in being submissive, it's a decision or forced upon whereas passivity is just not caring, not engaging
no
tb to when I let my class bully my teacher into tears 
Not caring was not the problem
Puthy move indeed but one can care while bein passive and not engaging 
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:57
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Juniper wrote:
Sometimes it’s smart
But no we need to prove that we are dominant so we have to reject this quality sorry 
Is the opposite of passive really dominant tho? I think dominant and active/engaged aren't synonyms, they somewhat overlap but I wouldn't say passivity and submission is the same thing
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
Why should having no opinion be seen as a weakness? I'd argue otherwise, though I think it would depend on the context. Sometimes it can be, but is it always?
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:57
Juniper
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Juniper wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Juniper wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Is the opposite of passive really dominant tho? I think dominant and active/engaged aren't synonyms, they somewhat overlap but I wouldn't say passivity and submission is the same thing
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
Why should having no opinion be seen as a weakness? I'd argue otherwise, though I think it would depend on the context. Sometimes it can be, but is it always?
Bc then ppl think ur hiding ur opinion out of fear even if u are just neutral 
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Date: 18-08-2020 01:59
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Being unemployed is great cuz now I have time to engage in pseudo-philosophical conversations while I'm stoned af on vp. I didnt have the time to do that when working full time.
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wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Being unemployed is great cuz now I have time to engage in pseudo-philosophical conversations while I'm stoned af on vp. I didnt have the time to do that when working full time.
Well to quote an asshole who held a guest lecture at my uni once: everyone is a philosopher, everyone has a valid opinion when it comes to philosophy because everyone has a soul
Date: 18-08-2020 02:02
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Juniper wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Juniper wrote:
I know I’m saying u have to voice ur opinion in society or u seem weak and afraid , everyone wants to be seen as strong so they fight even if it can be a waste of time 
Why should having no opinion be seen as a weakness? I'd argue otherwise, though I think it would depend on the context. Sometimes it can be, but is it always?
Bc then ppl think ur hiding ur opinion out of fear even if u are just neutral 
Maybe people need to stop jumping to conclusions. I agree that holding back opinions out of fear can be harmful but maybe ask instead of assume. Also sometimes it's more effective to work behind the scenes and keep it secret. If you voice ur opinion and ppl catch on they'll try to suppress your actions. Doesnt seem like many people consider that
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Date: 18-08-2020 02:03
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Being unemployed is great cuz now I have time to engage in pseudo-philosophical conversations while I'm stoned af on vp. I didnt have the time to do that when working full time.
Well to quote an asshole who held a guest lecture at my uni once: everyone is a philosopher, everyone has a valid opinion when it comes to philosophy because everyone has a soul
That's beautiful
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Date: 18-08-2020 02:04
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Maxwell wrote:
disintegration wrote:
Like there is determination in being submissive, it's a decision or forced upon whereas passivity is just not caring, not engaging
no
tb to when I let my class bully my teacher into tears 
Not caring was not the problem
Puthy move indeed but one can care while bein passive and not engaging 
Good point. I think people make too many assumptions about passive people. How do you know how they feel? Maybe ask? Hell maybe learn from them. Maybe their strategies have advantages 
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Date: 18-08-2020 02:05
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