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ouch wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
ouch wrote:
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Idk I think not watching a game is a pretty low bar.
This year no one who didn't close their eyes  knows about the bad stuff happening.
I don't even know and I am certainly more online than them lol, its not hard to miss it even if u watch it, if u just watch the games on tv but don't consume other media abt it 
Wasn't it in the newspaper and on the news on tv in your country?
I only read the local newspaper as my news source so no, and I don't follow any political/lgbt/football spaces so it doesn't pop up for me. I saw one post on reddit abt the pride flag being banned on the arm or whatever but that was all the information so I was just, ok. Thats all I've seen abt it all
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wug wrote:
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Idk it might be the far left-wing in me but I have major issues with the focus being on LGBT+ right when the world cup is criticised rather than the 6400+ workers who have died because of construction directly linked to it. Of course, the LGBT+ shit is horrendous as well, but the worker aspect is directly connected to it, they're hosting it on a figurative graveyard 
you are far left wing what since when.

I mean yeah obvs but you can care about 2 things at the same time.

Ofc it shouldn't have been hosted in Qatar in the first place and I hope FIFA will lose enough money that it won't be profitable anymore to host world cups in autocratic countries/ monarchies/dictatorships.
lmao my entire life 

of course it's possible to care about 2 things at the same time, my issue is that when people talk about it, my observation is that the LGBT+ aspect is what they talk about, while glossing over the slavery, the deaths and the abuse of foreign workers 
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ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Idk it might be the far left-wing in me but I have major issues with the focus being on LGBT+ right when the world cup is criticised rather than the 6400+ workers who have died because of construction directly linked to it. Of course, the LGBT+ shit is horrendous as well, but the worker aspect is directly connected to it, they're hosting it on a figurative graveyard 
you are far left wing what since when.

I mean yeah obvs but you can care about 2 things at the same time.

Ofc it shouldn't have been hosted in Qatar in the first place and I hope FIFA will lose enough money that it won't be profitable anymore to host world cups in autocratic countries/ monarchies/dictatorships.
lmao my entire life 

of course it's possible to care about 2 things at the same time, my issue is that when people talk about it, my observation is that the LGBT+ aspect is what they talk about, while glossing over the slavery, the deaths and the abuse of foreign workers 
Tgere are two types of far left wing and u r 1 of them but not typical one (but the reasonable thinking one)
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wug wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
you are far left wing what since when.

I mean yeah obvs but you can care about 2 things at the same time.

Ofc it shouldn't have been hosted in Qatar in the first place and I hope FIFA will lose enough money that it won't be profitable anymore to host world cups in autocratic countries/ monarchies/dictatorships.
lmao my entire life 

of course it's possible to care about 2 things at the same time, my issue is that when people talk about it, my observation is that the LGBT+ aspect is what they talk about, while glossing over the slavery, the deaths and the abuse of foreign workers 
Tgere are two types of far left wing and u r 1 of them but not typical one (but the reasonable thinking one)
I don't remember how it was exactly but on the political compass I align with Trotskyism the most which is completely to the left and ish between authoritarian and libertarian and I guess the traditional view on far left in Europe is significantly more libertarian than what I am 
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ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
lmao my entire life 

of course it's possible to care about 2 things at the same time, my issue is that when people talk about it, my observation is that the LGBT+ aspect is what they talk about, while glossing over the slavery, the deaths and the abuse of foreign workers 
Tgere are two types of far left wing and u r 1 of them but not typical one (but the reasonable thinking one)
I don't remember how it was exactly but on the political compass I align with Trotskyism the most which is completely to the left and ish between authoritarian and libertarian and I guess the traditional view on far left in Europe is significantly more libertarian than what I am 
Political words I do not know, I only know normal vs not normal far left, same w far right, but I think its based mostly not on being far left but what exactly you are far left on and care abt. Idk if that makes sense but 
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wug wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
ouch wrote:
Tgere are two types of far left wing and u r 1 of them but not typical one (but the reasonable thinking one)
I don't remember how it was exactly but on the political compass I align with Trotskyism the most which is completely to the left and ish between authoritarian and libertarian and I guess the traditional view on far left in Europe is significantly more libertarian than what I am 
Political words I do not know, I only know normal vs not normal far left, same w far right, but I think its based mostly not on being far left but what exactly you are far left on and care abt. Idk if that makes sense but 
what's the normal far left as you perceive it? 
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Sylvan wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
you are far left wing what since when.

I mean yeah obvs but you can care about 2 things at the same time.

Ofc it shouldn't have been hosted in Qatar in the first place and I hope FIFA will lose enough money that it won't be profitable anymore to host world cups in autocratic countries/ monarchies/dictatorships.
lmao my entire life 

of course it's possible to care about 2 things at the same time, my issue is that when people talk about it, my observation is that the LGBT+ aspect is what they talk about, while glossing over the slavery, the deaths and the abuse of foreign workers 
Tgere are two types of far left wing and u r 1 of them but not typical one (but the reasonable thinking one)
which type of left wing supports eugenics?
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wug wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
lmao my entire life 

of course it's possible to care about 2 things at the same time, my issue is that when people talk about it, my observation is that the LGBT+ aspect is what they talk about, while glossing over the slavery, the deaths and the abuse of foreign workers 
Tgere are two types of far left wing and u r 1 of them but not typical one (but the reasonable thinking one)
which type of left wing supports eugenics?
jesus christ
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ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
I don't remember how it was exactly but on the political compass I align with Trotskyism the most which is completely to the left and ish between authoritarian and libertarian and I guess the traditional view on far left in Europe is significantly more libertarian than what I am 
Political words I do not know, I only know normal vs not normal far left, same w far right, but I think its based mostly not on being far left but what exactly you are far left on and care abt. Idk if that makes sense but 
what's the normal far left as you perceive it? 
Normal reasonable thinking (like actually do ur own thinking and not just follow whatevers trending), not shouting at everyone whos opinion differs from yours (es ppl), have ur own opinions meanwhile agreeing w the general idea of the left idk. Hard to explain, but I know my family for example in nkp, I would consider them far left, but different from the social justice (??) far left. Im making no sense today, brain thinking no words 

I think u can seperate ur thinking of left and right between social issues and economy etc tho, like u can be far left social issues but far right economics or vice versa. Or middle on most except economics etc, but thats my point I think it differs on what u care abt 
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ouch wrote:
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when people complain about the world cup being in qatar but didnt complain about the olympics being in china😂😂😂😂 people being in literal concentration camps in the year of 2021 was fine but we draw the line at not being allowed to wear a rainbow bracelet
Me when women said free the nipple 
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Sylvan wrote:
Rui wrote:
when people complain about the world cup being in qatar but didnt complain about the olympics being in china😂😂😂😂 people being in literal concentration camps in the year of 2021 was fine but we draw the line at not being allowed to wear a rainbow bracelet
Can y'all please take a rhetoric class because whataboutism isn't the winning argument y'all think it is.

Also all lefties who think queer rights are not as important as rights for other minorities please put your head where the sun don't shine.
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wug wrote:
Rui wrote:
when people complain about the world cup being in qatar but didnt complain about the olympics being in china😂😂😂😂 people being in literal concentration camps in the year of 2021 was fine but we draw the line at not being allowed to wear a rainbow bracelet
i didn't watch the concentration camp olympics in china even if winter olympics is the only olympics i remotely care about because i don't want to indirectly support a regime like that 
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ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Rui wrote:
when people complain about the world cup being in qatar but didnt complain about the olympics being in china😂😂😂😂 people being in literal concentration camps in the year of 2021 was fine but we draw the line at not being allowed to wear a rainbow bracelet
i didn't watch the concentration camp olympics in china even if winter olympics is the only olympics i remotely care about because i don't want to indirectly support a regime like that 
Ppl watching sports is so weird to me like it doesn't even cross my mind that ppl watch sports and then im reminded and im like wow schocked 
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wug wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Rui wrote:
when people complain about the world cup being in qatar but didnt complain about the olympics being in china😂😂😂😂 people being in literal concentration camps in the year of 2021 was fine but we draw the line at not being allowed to wear a rainbow bracelet
i didn't watch the concentration camp olympics in china even if winter olympics is the only olympics i remotely care about because i don't want to indirectly support a regime like that 
Ppl watching sports is so weird to me like it doesn't even cross my mind that ppl watch sports and then im reminded and im like wow schocked 
wtf i famously watch sports 
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