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Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876
I don't speak that language.
I was talking about my country, that's why the articles are in spanish. The titles are "6000 deaths related to puberty-blocking medications for transexualism's treatments in kids" and "Reports of more than 6000 deaths because of medications for trans kids"
I can not read it and I don't know how credible the source is so I shall not take that seriously, I'm sorry.
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:58
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Eh, I disagree.. Where I live, most of the transgender people kill themselves also because taking hormones can fuck you up. Plus, at least 6000 trans kids in my country, died because of complications with hormones. 
Suicide risk in transgender individuals are related to both discrimination and hormones (in the case they're taking it)
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876

i actually translated that shit and the 6000 people who died were not trans kids but people who took the medication for prostate cancer and the medication is not hormones but hormone blockers and this site claims that 11 trans kids died but i see no links to a scientific journal that can support these claims

edit: the website doesn't even claim that the medication killed 11 trans kids but kids who were treated for growth illnesses too
Date: 10-07-2020 20:59 | Times changed: 1
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Azriel wrote:
*squints*
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Heaven wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Heaven wrote:
this makes no sense, the person can literally tell u? no one talked abt guessing 
wdym, im saying that trans ppl kills themselves also AFTER transisioning like how do u not know if they are actually trans or not?
now that is a very rhetoric question because you literally wouldn't know..... it's too complex for there to be a solid explanation, but discrimination plays a factor i guess? (if u don't know that they weren't conformed with transitioning either)

bruh i hope u get what i mean
thats what im saying
Date: 10-07-2020 20:59
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ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
wdym, im saying that trans ppl kills themselves also AFTER transisioning like how do u not know if they are actually trans or not?
Cus they might feel bad abt their body still, irreversible changed so they feel its hopeless to try to detransition etc
There are lots of reasons someone might still feel bad after transitioning, also the hate from society in general 
sure but u said maybe they rnt really trans. neither of us know that
I said some of them are not trans, and thats true, they were never trans if they want to detransition
Ur too thick in the head to have a conversation with lol
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Date: 10-07-2020 20:59
BEWAREARTEMIS
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
The links I shared to respond to Alam's question
And well, rather than taking hormones, probably should've said hormone blockers
Hormone blockers and hormones are WAY different. Hormone blockers CAN be harmful, they can weaken your bones and other stuff I don't remember. Hrt, however, is pretty dang safe.
This is some side effects from hormones that MtF individuals take: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/mtf-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096 ; https://www.nebraskamed.com/sites/default/files/documents/transgender/hormone-therapy.pdf ). As I said before, I believe the side effects of hormone treatment may be the same for FtM individuals
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Date: 10-07-2020 21:00
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ouch wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876

i actually translated that shit and the 6000 people who died were not trans kids but people who took the medication for prostate cancer and the medication is not hormones but hormone blockers and this site claims that 11 trans kids died but i see no links to a scientific journal that can support these claims
Oops
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Date: 10-07-2020 21:00
BEWAREARTEMIS
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876

i actually translated that shit and the 6000 people who died were not trans kids but people who took the medication for prostate cancer and the medication is not hormones but hormone blockers and this site claims that 11 trans kids died but i see no links to a scientific journal that can support these claims
I don't get how you take an article about trans kids and translate it to prostate cancer. 
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Alam
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ouch wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
ouch wrote:
Cus they might feel bad abt their body still, irreversible changed so they feel its hopeless to try to detransition etc
There are lots of reasons someone might still feel bad after transitioning, also the hate from society in general 
sure but u said maybe they rnt really trans. neither of us know that
I said some of them are not trans, and thats true, they were never trans if they want to detransition
Ur too thick in the head to have a conversation with lol
u said "maybe they aren't really trans"
i said, trans ppl kill themselves even after transitioning

like ur mixing it up
Date: 10-07-2020 21:01
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Claire wrote:
Heaven wrote:
ouch wrote:
Heaven wrote:
ppl go through phases in life where they try to figure themselves out and perhaps someone who thought they were trans for some time just wasnt  . . ??? and also what ouch said
Yes, I know soemone on vp who detransitioned cus at the time they felt that transitioning was the right thing to become happy, but they figured out it didn't help cus their problems was from other things than gender dysphoria 
hmhm this is possible
and valid 
I think it’s important to research detransitioners before transition cause it does happen. There’s a few people on YouTube who talk about it. The subreddit about it is private cause they get bullied a lot by everyone. Like they’re bullied by trans people and by transphobes. 
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Alam
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Alam wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876

i actually translated that shit and the 6000 people who died were not trans kids but people who took the medication for prostate cancer and the medication is not hormones but hormone blockers and this site claims that 11 trans kids died but i see no links to a scientific journal that can support these claims

edit: the website doesn't even claim that the medication killed 11 trans kids but kids who were treated for growth illnesses too
DAMN. Guess I was right not to take them seriously.
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Koolaid wrote:
hm okay but are any of y'all doctors? cause it's very easy to misinterpret research/data if you're not knowledgeable on the subject. kinda tired of people here pretending they know it all
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Date: 10-07-2020 21:02
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ouch wrote:
Claire wrote:
Heaven wrote:
ouch wrote:
Yes, I know soemone on vp who detransitioned cus at the time they felt that transitioning was the right thing to become happy, but they figured out it didn't help cus their problems was from other things than gender dysphoria 
hmhm this is possible
and valid 
I think it’s important to research detransitioners before transition cause it does happen. There’s a few people on YouTube who talk about it. The subreddit about it is private cause they get bullied a lot by everyone. Like they’re bullied by trans people and by transphobes. 
Yeah its bad and a very bad situation to get urself in too
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Date: 10-07-2020 21:02
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uhyre wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? 
https://eltorotv.com/noticias/civilizacion/relacionan-6-000-muertes-con-medicamentos-bloqueadores-de-la-pubertad-utilizados-para-tratamientos-transexuales-en-ninos-20191003

https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/denuncian-mas-de-6-mil-muertes-por-medicamentos-suministrados-a-ninos-trans-83876

i actually translated that shit and the 6000 people who died were not trans kids but people who took the medication for prostate cancer and the medication is not hormones but hormone blockers and this site claims that 11 trans kids died but i see no links to a scientific journal that can support these claims
now THATS credible because i remember reading about articles about that ages ago bc. yanno tumblr
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