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Gilmore
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Gilmore wrote:

Peachy wrote:

Taomiline wrote:
Agreed. So fucked up.

I really hope Finland joins Nato soon. I don't want to have to live in fear of Russia pulling that shit with us

that's not how it works lol
if we join they will attack us that's literally what putin said

the smartest thing for finland to do is stfu and not pick sides

and according to sanna we won't be joining nato ^^

But aren't they re-discussing it now?

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Delusion1111111 wrote:
good job usa u finally managed to destabilise some regions in europe as opposed to just regions in the middle east n africa etc <3 progress <3

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December wrote:
this whole thing is giving me so much anxiety but it's nothing compared to what the people who live there must feel

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remains wrote:

Delusion1111111 wrote:
good job usa u finally managed to destabilise some regions in europe as opposed to just regions in the middle east n africa etc <3 progress <3

not to even mention east and south east asia and south america ! they should try the antarctic next, for variety

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Gilmore wrote:

December wrote:
this whole thing is giving me so much anxiety but it's nothing compared to what the people who live there must feel

this 100%

fucking awful, no words

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Delusion1111111 wrote:

bones wrote:

Delusion1111111 wrote:
good job usa u finally managed to destabilise some regions in europe as opposed to just regions in the middle east n africa etc <3 progress <3

not to even mention east and south east asia and south america ! they should try the antarctic next, for variety

im sure its on their to do list

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Arthema wrote:

MyBanIsLiftedWTF wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

MyBanIsLiftedWTF wrote:
I feel bad for what the Ukrainians have to go through but I kinda wish the world had the same compassion it has now when things went downhill for other countries such as Syria. Blue eyes blond hair…

I mean you are not wrong but at the moment? Questionable to bring it up.

People care because this has the potential to destabilize all of europe, no one knows what will happen and what effect it will have on their life.

How is it questionable to bring this up when the war is also still going on in Syria? And let's not forget that it’s also supported by the same offender of Ukraine, Russia.

Also Yes, what’s going on now has the potential of destabilizing Europe, but that still doesn’t justify how racist and cold the world was towards Syrians (not just them btw).

Because they're not the same after all.
One is between two countries and has the potential to spark World War III.
One is a civil war that involves actual terrorist groups.
Again, it's not just about Europe with the Russo-Ukrainian War, with countries that border those 2 being involved, and countries around the WORLD being involved. It's a danger not only to the people that have to go through that war, but soon to all of us. It'll escalate, and become much worse.
So yes, it is questionable because, as cruel as it might sound, it's tragic, truly, but not on the same scale when it comes to what countries would focus on, what PEOPLE would focus on.

Yes, it's not okay, but again, it's the fact that bringing this shit up, like bringing BLM, the Syrian war, the situation in Afghanistan, or other groups of countries and people that are at war or oppressed, can just not be measured on the same scales???
you cannot compare death and violations of human rights, it's just inhumane to do so, by that, you disregard so many other groups altogether?
You might complain that it's not okay that people do it but when you're doing it rn, that's kind of a hypocritic move to do so.

"I feel bad for what the Ukrainians have to go through but..."

that's exactly the problem.
there is NO justification for any of this, there should not be a reason why things like that happen or more like things like that should not happen, people do not deserve to lose their lives over civil wars and cruel and unjust wars and uprisings, but sadly as this world is not fair and compromises always has to be made, countries can't just GIVE their all to some situations like that.
where they can help? they do.
taking refugees, sending aid, but in situations like this, it's SO hard to detain it and control it.

taking one war and/or crisis to use and comparing it to another is a nono.

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Arthema wrote:

The audacity of this bitch lmao.
those people that truly believe or take Putin's side, or just THAT brainwashed.
this is just fucking stupid.

Link to the tweet in the article

MyBanIsLiftedWTF
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MyBanIsLiftedWTF wrote:

Abby wrote:

MyBanIsLiftedWTF wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
I mean you are not wrong but at the moment? Questionable to bring it up.

People care because this has the potential to destabilize all of europe, no one knows what will happen and what effect it will have on their life.

How is it questionable to bring this up when the war is also still going on in Syria? And let's not forget that it’s also supported by the same offender of Ukraine, Russia.

Also Yes, what’s going on now has the potential of destabilizing Europe, but that still doesn’t justify how racist and cold the world was towards Syrians (not just them btw).

Because they're not the same after all.
One is between two countries and has the potential to spark World War III.
One is a civil war that involves actual terrorist groups.
Again, it's not just about Europe with the Russo-Ukrainian War, with countries that border those 2 being involved, and countries around the WORLD being involved. It's a danger not only to the people that have to go through that war, but soon to all of us. It'll escalate, and become much worse.
So yes, it is questionable because, as cruel as it might sound, it's tragic, truly, but not on the same scale when it comes to what countries would focus on, what PEOPLE would focus on.

Yes, it's not okay, but again, it's the fact that bringing this shit up, like bringing BLM, the Syrian war, the situation in Afghanistan, or other groups of countries and people that are at war or oppressed, can just not be measured on the same scales???
you cannot compare death and violations of human rights, it's just inhumane to do so, by that, you disregard so many other groups altogether?
You might complain that it's not okay that people do it but when you're doing it rn, that's kind of a hypocritic move to do so.

"I feel bad for what the Ukrainians have to go through but..."

that's exactly the problem.
there is NO justification for any of this, there should not be a reason why things like that happen or more like things like that should not happen, people do not deserve to lose their lives over civil wars and cruel and unjust wars and uprisings, but sadly as this world is not fair and compromises always has to be made, countries can't just GIVE their all to some situations like that.
where they can help? they do.
taking refugees, sending aid, but in situations like this, it's SO hard to detain it and control it.

taking one war and/or crisis to use and comparing it to another is a nono.

And while everything you say has an essence if truth in it, not once did I compare a war/crisis to another in the way that I take away from another’s suffer (unlike you might I add). I am fully criticizing the way how people (that are not directly affected by the war itself) lack compassion for one and not for the other, and in some cases even use it as a valid reason to further their racist agendas.

What I am currently saying is not the thing that should be questioned, why people are doing this is what should be questioned. If we don’t talk about this, keep ignoring and normalizing it… I feel like you’re all smart enough to guess where I’m going with this.

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Arthema wrote:

MyBanIsLiftedWTF wrote:

Abby wrote:

MyBanIsLiftedWTF wrote:
How is it questionable to bring this up when the war is also still going on in Syria? And let's not forget that it’s also supported by the same offender of Ukraine, Russia.

Also Yes, what’s going on now has the potential of destabilizing Europe, but that still doesn’t justify how racist and cold the world was towards Syrians (not just them btw).

Because they're not the same after all.
One is between two countries and has the potential to spark World War III.
One is a civil war that involves actual terrorist groups.
Again, it's not just about Europe with the Russo-Ukrainian War, with countries that border those 2 being involved, and countries around the WORLD being involved. It's a danger not only to the people that have to go through that war, but soon to all of us. It'll escalate, and become much worse.
So yes, it is questionable because, as cruel as it might sound, it's tragic, truly, but not on the same scale when it comes to what countries would focus on, what PEOPLE would focus on.

Yes, it's not okay, but again, it's the fact that bringing this shit up, like bringing BLM, the Syrian war, the situation in Afghanistan, or other groups of countries and people that are at war or oppressed, can just not be measured on the same scales???
you cannot compare death and violations of human rights, it's just inhumane to do so, by that, you disregard so many other groups altogether?
You might complain that it's not okay that people do it but when you're doing it rn, that's kind of a hypocritic move to do so.

"I feel bad for what the Ukrainians have to go through but..."

that's exactly the problem.
there is NO justification for any of this, there should not be a reason why things like that happen or more like things like that should not happen, people do not deserve to lose their lives over civil wars and cruel and unjust wars and uprisings, but sadly as this world is not fair and compromises always has to be made, countries can't just GIVE their all to some situations like that.
where they can help? they do.
taking refugees, sending aid, but in situations like this, it's SO hard to detain it and control it.

taking one war and/or crisis to use and comparing it to another is a nono.

And while everything you say has an essence if truth in it, not once did I compare a war/crisis to another in the way that I take away from another’s suffer (unlike you might I add). I am fully criticizing the way how people (that are not directly affected by the war itself) lack compassion for one and not for the other, and in some cases even use it as a valid reason to further their racist agendas.

What I am currently saying is not the thing that should be questioned, why people are doing this is what should be questioned. If we don’t talk about this, keep ignoring and normalizing it… I feel like you’re all smart enough to guess where I’m going with this.

just by comparing you take away from something because we all focus on one thing or another when it comes to people. organizations, war, crisis.
Just by going on a thread about the Russian and Ukrainian war, and you bring up another topic, you do just that, not that it doesn't have a place at ALL but that's... that's not it if you claim that it should not be ignored.

in no way do I compare them to make one seem less severe, or less horrible, as I stated all those painful things that happen do deserve the recognition and care, but as sad as it is, our wishes won't be fulfilled and as shit as it sounds, I'll repeat it, sadly countries, will care more about what can affect them directly, more then what's going on in some country far away, although you can keep analyzing it however you want to.

and no, it's not a lack so to speak, people will forever be selectively compassionate and emphatic to and with certain groups, not always because of racism or stupidity, but yes a LOT of times just because of that as you've stated, tinfoil people just exist and sadly we can't do much about besides educate their kids and the future generations against inhumane things like that, but that's not the point in here and a whole different topic.

Again, if you mean why do people ignore it? it's not people, it's countries, their governments, just like the Syrian crisis, the war in Ukraine, we learn yet again that in a lot of cases it's just not the people, the people don't WANT it, they don't, but the government says otherwise, and while rioting exists well, you see how far that takes some groups, unfortunately.

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Arthema wrote:

I'm so glad that they are aware that there are soldiers who do NOT want it and were forced into this war.
link to tweet

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Arthema wrote:
Damn more countries ban Russian flights and the EU put sanctions on Belarus as well for helping Russia invade Ukraine
family in Russia wanted to get out before that but now they're not sure on how to do that with all those flight bans

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Sylvan wrote:

Abby wrote:
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I'm so glad that they are aware that there are soldiers who do NOT want it and were forced into this war.
link to tweet

if something can end this without more blood and death, it's russians standing up united against putin, but decades of a misinformation war took its toll.

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Arthema wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

Abby wrote:
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I'm so glad that they are aware that there are soldiers who do NOT want it and were forced into this war.
link to tweet

if something can end this without more blood and death, it's russians standing up united against putin, but decades of a misinformation war took its toll.

they are trying their best, inside of Russia and outside of it,
but people are being arrested and taken god knows where
some are still scared of what will happen to them, and understandably so, people were taken and never came back.
but yes there's just too much misinformation and the media in Russia is controlled TIGHTLY by the Russian government, trying to close even more the citizens from getting info from outside, it's terrible

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devilcake wrote:

Abby wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

Abby wrote:
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I'm so glad that they are aware that there are soldiers who do NOT want it and were forced into this war.
link to tweet

if something can end this without more blood and death, it's russians standing up united against putin, but decades of a misinformation war took its toll.

they are trying their best, inside of Russia and outside of it,
but people are being arrested and taken god knows where
some are still scared of what will happen to them, and understandably so, people were taken and never came back.
but yes there's just too much misinformation and the media in Russia is controlled TIGHTLY by the Russian government, trying to close even more the citizens from getting info from outside, it's terrible

Saw some article the other day about how “most Russians support Putin/the war” without even considering things like these, like o gee wonder why the govt in a place where ur punished for going a against it is “supported” by the people