You have not yet responded to the forum.

Here you will find the last 3 forum topics
you have posted a comment on.
+ add shout
Themis
I dont love u but u are valid and I appreciate u and hope u have a nice day
0 | 0 | 0 | 0
0%
To join the forums you need to be logged in.

Click here to register your own account for free and I will personally explain to you how you can start getting your own fans and, making popdollars.
> Close
Helper
Forum
Startalk
Blog statistics
Friends management



Topics   Messages
16 of the 24 stars earned

Forum

General < General First | Previous | Page: | Next | Last
Poll: u w u
Show results
straight ppl
Account deleted




wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Alam wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Thats not what it looks like
I hate it here but I can't stop. Rescue me, Lars.
Idk shit about hormones bruv just go play sims
im making this my motto
Date: 10-07-2020 21:11
Private
Prince of Pop



Azriel wrote:
Alam wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Alam wrote:
I hate it here but I can't stop. Rescue me, Lars.
Idk shit about hormones bruv just go play sims
My game is open and I could just stop but I can't, I'm a moth to the flames.
Yes I know I saw it on discord lol thats why I said it
20
Posts: 39033
Date: 10-07-2020 21:12
Private
Prince of Pop



Azriel wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Alam wrote:
I hate it here but I can't stop. Rescue me, Lars.
Idk shit about hormones bruv just go play sims
im making this my motto
uwu
20
Posts: 39033
Date: 10-07-2020 21:13
Account deleted




wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
I don't get how you take an article about trans kids and translate it to prostate cancer. 

it's in the second paragraph i think (my translation extension shifted the spaces a bitso idk), it talks about the medication and it's uses

i am not saying that it's completely harmless but if you have a suicidal teen who freaks out bc of dysphoria it may be a valuable tool.
trans acceptance can lead to more research to make these medication safer, all trans ppl and allies want that and no one wants to have side effects but the pros outweight the cons for many trans people who suffer from bad dysphoria.
Yes, I re-read and explained what they said about its uses on prostate cancer, but your translator got it wrong

Perhaps because I don't really find it safe for a kid to take hormones (as a kid, you're going through different phases and I find it ridiculous to try to give the kid hormones when you don't really know if they may feel the same way in a few years. + you can not really reverse most effects, which could worsen the situation).
What I find understandable is that you start giving them hormones when they've been through puberty and are now perhaps even adults and can take a decision and understand the risks. 
I believe that they should get a (severe? I don't know how to describe it) therapy to treat the dysphoria while the kid keeps growing and understanding different concepts before taking anything. 
Let the kid dress and express how they want first and see if they're actually just GNC kids. If not, then hormone treatment

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/viral-fake-news-story-linked-trans-healthcare-thousands-deaths-n1...
Date: 10-07-2020 21:13
Account deleted




wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Idk shit about hormones bruv just go play sims
im making this my motto
uwu
sad cry apologize to me immediately
Date: 10-07-2020 21:14
Alam
World Famous



Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
I don't get how you take an article about trans kids and translate it to prostate cancer. 

it's in the second paragraph i think (my translation extension shifted the spaces a bitso idk), it talks about the medication and it's uses

i am not saying that it's completely harmless but if you have a suicidal teen who freaks out bc of dysphoria it may be a valuable tool.
trans acceptance can lead to more research to make these medication safer, all trans ppl and allies want that and no one wants to have side effects but the pros outweight the cons for many trans people who suffer from bad dysphoria.
Yes, I re-read and explained what they said about its uses on prostate cancer, but your translator got it wrong

Perhaps because I don't really find it safe for a kid to take hormones (as a kid, you're going through different phases and I find it ridiculous to try to give the kid hormones when you don't really know if they may feel the same way in a few years. + you can not really reverse most effects, which could worsen the situation).
What I find understandable is that you start giving them hormones when they've been through puberty and are now perhaps even adults and can take a decision and understand the risks. 
I believe that they should get a (severe? I don't know how to describe it) therapy to treat the dysphoria while the kid keeps growing and understanding different concepts before taking anything. 
Let the kid dress and express how they want first and see if they're actually just GNC kids. If not, then hormone treatment
That's what puberty blockers are for, and they're not as dangerous as you make them seem, you just need to make sure to take supplements and workout.
As for the last part, I kind of agree? People should get therapy for their dysphoria but getting hormones isn't as easy as you may think. It's FUCKING HARD, it takes a long time and a lot of confirmation from experts in the field.
20
Posts: 23097
Date: 10-07-2020 21:14
Private
World Famous



Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
No but my dad is a doctor (I know, that sounds really childish, here's me lampshading y'all) and he wouldn't let me take hormones if there were any known incredibly harmful side effects, if that amounts to anything in your eyes.
I think part of the problem tho is a lot of these drugs are fairly new or newly being used in this way so we really don’t know a hundred percent the effects in the future. I know one example is The drug lupron is used for blocking female pUeberty and there is actual evidence of this drug causing bone loss. 
That's true, that's why I take calcium supplements and workout. There, fixed.
So it’s incorrect for you to say something like there’s no incredibly harmful side effects right? What would be correct to say is that you’re aware of the potentially harmful side effects and do your best to mitigate them with lifestyle choices. I think it’s dangerous to be misleading about these things. 
21
Posts: 55745
Date: 10-07-2020 21:14
Alam
World Famous



Alam wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Alam wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Idk shit about hormones bruv just go play sims
My game is open and I could just stop but I can't, I'm a moth to the flames.
Yes I know I saw it on discord lol thats why I said it
I know, I know. Fucking help me, mate, I'm shaking again. Unrelated but yeah.
20
Posts: 23097
Date: 10-07-2020 21:14
Alam
World Famous



Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
I think part of the problem tho is a lot of these drugs are fairly new or newly being used in this way so we really don’t know a hundred percent the effects in the future. I know one example is The drug lupron is used for blocking female pUeberty and there is actual evidence of this drug causing bone loss. 
That's true, that's why I take calcium supplements and workout. There, fixed.
So it’s incorrect for you to say something like there’s no incredibly harmful side effects right? What would be correct to say is that you’re aware of the potentially harmful side effects and do your best to mitigate them with lifestyle choices. I think it’s dangerous to be misleading about these things. 
I said it's harmful myself. You know there are doctors involved in people going on blockers that know what they're doing, right? Also, what are you calling a lifestyle choice here? I hope you're not saying what I think you're saying.
20
Posts: 23097
Date: 10-07-2020 21:16
Private
World Famous



Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
That's true, that's why I take calcium supplements and workout. There, fixed.
So it’s incorrect for you to say something like there’s no incredibly harmful side effects right? What would be correct to say is that you’re aware of the potentially harmful side effects and do your best to mitigate them with lifestyle choices. I think it’s dangerous to be misleading about these things. 
I said it's harmful myself. You know there are doctors involved in people going on blockers that know what they're doing, right? Also, what are you calling a lifestyle choice here? I hope you're not saying what I think you're saying.
Working out is a lifestyle choice lol
21
Posts: 55745
Date: 10-07-2020 21:17
Alam
World Famous



Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Claire wrote:
So it’s incorrect for you to say something like there’s no incredibly harmful side effects right? What would be correct to say is that you’re aware of the potentially harmful side effects and do your best to mitigate them with lifestyle choices. I think it’s dangerous to be misleading about these things. 
I said it's harmful myself. You know there are doctors involved in people going on blockers that know what they're doing, right? Also, what are you calling a lifestyle choice here? I hope you're not saying what I think you're saying.
Working out is a lifestyle choice lol
Phew...
20
Posts: 23097
Date: 10-07-2020 21:18
BEWAREARTEMIS
National Star



BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:

it's in the second paragraph i think (my translation extension shifted the spaces a bitso idk), it talks about the medication and it's uses

i am not saying that it's completely harmless but if you have a suicidal teen who freaks out bc of dysphoria it may be a valuable tool.
trans acceptance can lead to more research to make these medication safer, all trans ppl and allies want that and no one wants to have side effects but the pros outweight the cons for many trans people who suffer from bad dysphoria.
Yes, I re-read and explained what they said about its uses on prostate cancer, but your translator got it wrong

Perhaps because I don't really find it safe for a kid to take hormones (as a kid, you're going through different phases and I find it ridiculous to try to give the kid hormones when you don't really know if they may feel the same way in a few years. + you can not really reverse most effects, which could worsen the situation).
What I find understandable is that you start giving them hormones when they've been through puberty and are now perhaps even adults and can take a decision and understand the risks. 
I believe that they should get a (severe? I don't know how to describe it) therapy to treat the dysphoria while the kid keeps growing and understanding different concepts before taking anything. 
Let the kid dress and express how they want first and see if they're actually just GNC kids. If not, then hormone treatment

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/viral-fake-news-story-linked-trans-healthcare-thousands-deaths-n1...
Yes, there can be misleading info about transgender deaths, but there's also studies that talk about their mortality and they have many common traits, some being (obviously) discrimination, but also for immunodeficiency syndrome, cardiovascular diseases, etc.

I still would like to know what you think about the last paragraph that I wrote
15
Posts: 2206
Date: 10-07-2020 21:18
Alam
World Famous



Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Yes, I re-read and explained what they said about its uses on prostate cancer, but your translator got it wrong

Perhaps because I don't really find it safe for a kid to take hormones (as a kid, you're going through different phases and I find it ridiculous to try to give the kid hormones when you don't really know if they may feel the same way in a few years. + you can not really reverse most effects, which could worsen the situation).
What I find understandable is that you start giving them hormones when they've been through puberty and are now perhaps even adults and can take a decision and understand the risks. 
I believe that they should get a (severe? I don't know how to describe it) therapy to treat the dysphoria while the kid keeps growing and understanding different concepts before taking anything. 
Let the kid dress and express how they want first and see if they're actually just GNC kids. If not, then hormone treatment

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/viral-fake-news-story-linked-trans-healthcare-thousands-deaths-n1...
Yes, there can be misleading info about transgender deaths, but there's also studies that talk about their mortality and they have many common traits, some being (obviously) discrimination, but also for immunodeficiency syndrome, cardiovascular diseases, etc.

I still would like to know what you think about the last paragraph that I wrote
Hi! I'm trans and I'd rather die and pass than live and not be on hormones. 
20
Posts: 23097
Date: 10-07-2020 21:21
BEWAREARTEMIS
National Star



BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:

it's in the second paragraph i think (my translation extension shifted the spaces a bitso idk), it talks about the medication and it's uses

i am not saying that it's completely harmless but if you have a suicidal teen who freaks out bc of dysphoria it may be a valuable tool.
trans acceptance can lead to more research to make these medication safer, all trans ppl and allies want that and no one wants to have side effects but the pros outweight the cons for many trans people who suffer from bad dysphoria.
Yes, I re-read and explained what they said about its uses on prostate cancer, but your translator got it wrong

Perhaps because I don't really find it safe for a kid to take hormones (as a kid, you're going through different phases and I find it ridiculous to try to give the kid hormones when you don't really know if they may feel the same way in a few years. + you can not really reverse most effects, which could worsen the situation).
What I find understandable is that you start giving them hormones when they've been through puberty and are now perhaps even adults and can take a decision and understand the risks. 
I believe that they should get a (severe? I don't know how to describe it) therapy to treat the dysphoria while the kid keeps growing and understanding different concepts before taking anything. 
Let the kid dress and express how they want first and see if they're actually just GNC kids. If not, then hormone treatment
That's what puberty blockers are for, and they're not as dangerous as you make them seem, you just need to make sure to take supplements and workout.
As for the last part, I kind of agree? People should get therapy for their dysphoria but getting hormones isn't as easy as you may think. It's FUCKING HARD, it takes a long time and a lot of confirmation from experts in the field.
I'm talking about side effects. Professionals say that it's safe in general, but there can also be side effects that can truly affect badly the kid who takes puberty blockers (https://www.stlouischildrens.org/conditions-treatments/transgender-center/puberty-blockers)

And of course, getting hormones isn't that easy, but it also doesn't take *that* much to get them (at least here, but there may be more strict rules? in other places)
15
Posts: 2206
Date: 10-07-2020 21:22
BEWAREARTEMIS
National Star



BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
disintegration wrote:

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/viral-fake-news-story-linked-trans-healthcare-thousands-deaths-n1...
Yes, there can be misleading info about transgender deaths, but there's also studies that talk about their mortality and they have many common traits, some being (obviously) discrimination, but also for immunodeficiency syndrome, cardiovascular diseases, etc.

I still would like to know what you think about the last paragraph that I wrote
Hi! I'm trans and I'd rather die and pass than live and not be on hormones. 
But you're not a kid, so as long as you're an adult and understand the risks, I don't care what you take. If it makes your dysphoria get better, then I'm glad about it ! 
15
Posts: 2206
Date: 10-07-2020 21:23
Post comment
Post Comment
To load new posts: activated
First | Previous | Page: | Next | Last
© 2024 Terms of Use