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Alam
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Alam wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
That's why intention is so important. Which out of these two options would you say is morally wrong?
They are both killing.

Person A kills an innocent human being because it brings person A pleasure. He enjoys being a serial killer.
Peron B kills a person whom is just a second away from killing another innocent person.
None is wrong to me cus as I said, nothing is wrong and right forever, but I guess option a from a moral standpoint
There you go. Case closed!
If that makes you feel better, sure.
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:25
Snailman
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put me in there
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:25
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
That's why intention is so important. Which out of these two options would you say is morally wrong?
They are both killing.

Person A kills an innocent human being because it brings person A pleasure. He enjoys being a serial killer.
Peron B kills a person whom is just a second away from killing another innocent person.
None is wrong to me cus as I said, nothing is wrong and right forever, but I guess option a from a moral standpoint
There you go. Case closed!
Not rlly lol, cus I said who decided what is wrong and right, what is wrong and right right now, is not the same as a thousand years ago or a thousand years in the future, hence why I see it as wrong to set something in stone as wrong or right
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:26
Riddle
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Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
None is wrong to me cus as I said, nothing is wrong and right forever, but I guess option a from a moral standpoint
There you go. Case closed!
Not rlly lol, cus I said who decided what is wrong and right, what is wrong and right right now, is not the same as a thousand years ago or a thousand years in the future, hence why I see it as wrong to set something in stone as wrong or right
How do you know what was the in hearts of the people thousands of years ago?
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:27
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Nesta wrote:
xxpedrofangirlxx444 wrote:
Riddle wrote:
No.

If we were arguing about which fruit tastes the best, then I would agree with you. There is no objective truth to as to which fruit is the best. Because it has everything to do with preferences as an individual.

Morality however, does not. We can argue killing = bad morally but sometimes killing bad = morally good. That is a grey area but the killing itself is bad.
Oh okay then you can just substitute 'killing' with someone consensually hurting their partner. But I disagree that killing itself is bad, there's no inherent good or bad in that, it's neutral. This sounds so edgy but I hope y'all understand what I mean here lol
Most people would kill to survive if need be, be it an animal like us or other predators. One can argue that the killing is bad in itself, see the motivation for justification, or simply accept that this world we want to pretend should be all good and justified, doesn't have a set agenda in the first place and thus leaves the matter of how the action is viewed up to your local or global contemporary. 
Indeed, it's the intent and the consequence of an act that decides whether it is bad or not, at least most of the time, again it isn't black and white because so many things in life are too complex to definitively label
Date: 09-10-2021 19:28
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
There you go. Case closed!
Not rlly lol, cus I said who decided what is wrong and right, what is wrong and right right now, is not the same as a thousand years ago or a thousand years in the future, hence why I see it as wrong to set something in stone as wrong or right
How do you know what was the in hearts of the people thousands of years ago?
How do you. Modern society sees it as bad because we do not have to kill people anymore, but before, when it was essential to kill for survival, ppl were killing each other left and right. Do u think u would see killing as right, wrong or neutral if u grew up without any human interaction. Its an impossible thing to answer
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:29
Riddle
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Riddle wrote:
Why do we have a conscience? Why do we feel bad when we make others feel bad? Why do we feel empathy for other human-beings?
(unless you have a mental disorder)

Because we are moral beings with the choice to do good or bad. It's not any more complicated than you make it out to be. Sometimes the easiest, the most "obvious" answer is the correct one.
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:31
Riddle
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Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Not rlly lol, cus I said who decided what is wrong and right, what is wrong and right right now, is not the same as a thousand years ago or a thousand years in the future, hence why I see it as wrong to set something in stone as wrong or right
How do you know what was the in hearts of the people thousands of years ago?
How do you. Modern society sees it as bad because we do not have to kill people anymore, but before, when it was essential to kill for survival, ppl were killing each other left and right. Do u think u would see killing as right, wrong or neutral if u grew up without any human interaction. Its an impossible thing to answer
Because I know right from wrong. You will never understand that if you do not believe in objective truths in the first place. If nothing is morally good or bad, of course you won't have a problem with it.

Thanks for the discussion but I'm ending it now since it's going no where.
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:33
Alam
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Alam wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Why do we have a conscience? Why do we feel bad when we make others feel bad? Why do we feel empathy for other human-beings?
(unless you have a mental disorder)

Because we are moral beings with the choice to do good or bad. It's not any more complicated than you make it out to be. Sometimes the easiest, the most "obvious" answer is the correct one.
But your obvious answers aren't my obvious answers.
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:34
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Why do we have a conscience? Why do we feel bad when we make others feel bad? Why do we feel empathy for other human-beings?
(unless you have a mental disorder)

Because we are moral beings with the choice to do good or bad. It's not any more complicated than you make it out to be. Sometimes the easiest, the most "obvious" answer is the correct one.
I would assume cus we are learned to behave and think that way when growing up. Hence why neglect and being mistreated as a young child can make you not being able to feel empathy for others, especially if sheltered from other ppl than the abusers from a young age. If you grew up without anyone teaching u these things, one way or another, ur gonna grow up fucked up 
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:34
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wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Why do we have a conscience? Why do we feel bad when we make others feel bad? Why do we feel empathy for other human-beings?
(unless you have a mental disorder)

Because we are moral beings with the choice to do good or bad. It's not any more complicated than you make it out to be. Sometimes the easiest, the most "obvious" answer is the correct one.
Do you think it's possible to not morally care about something but still feel a heavy conscience if you happen to do said thing? I think it happens to me, logically I shouldn't care about this being wrong though I still feel like it's wrong
Date: 09-10-2021 19:35
Alam
World Famous



Alam wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
How do you know what was the in hearts of the people thousands of years ago?
How do you. Modern society sees it as bad because we do not have to kill people anymore, but before, when it was essential to kill for survival, ppl were killing each other left and right. Do u think u would see killing as right, wrong or neutral if u grew up without any human interaction. Its an impossible thing to answer
Because I know right from wrong. You will never understand that if you do not believe in objective truths in the first place. If nothing is morally good or bad, of course you won't have a problem with it.

Thanks for the discussion but I'm ending it now since it's going no where.
Where does this objective truth come from? Just curious.
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:35
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
How do you know what was the in hearts of the people thousands of years ago?
How do you. Modern society sees it as bad because we do not have to kill people anymore, but before, when it was essential to kill for survival, ppl were killing each other left and right. Do u think u would see killing as right, wrong or neutral if u grew up without any human interaction. Its an impossible thing to answer
Because I know right from wrong. You will never understand that if you do not believe in objective truths in the first place. If nothing is morally good or bad, of course you won't have a problem with it.

Thanks for the discussion but I'm ending it now since it's going no where.
And im asking, where did the objective thruths come from in the first place lmao. Society, not ur brain wiring
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Date: 09-10-2021 19:35
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are we going through the entire philosophy curriculum tonight or
Date: 09-10-2021 19:36
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Nesta wrote:
are we going through the entire philosophy curriculum tonight or
Date: 09-10-2021 19:36
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