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Claire wrote:
like its just wild to me that anyone is like shocked by the outcome here. essentially she decided to move on to a different job and the boss said 'ok so move on here's ur money and i'm removing ur access'

we know wishbone and we know shes like a cool sweet good person- but etjen hasnt known her as long as we have. for all HE knows- after being hired by a competitor she could sabotage things here with the access she has. we know she would never- but many many people would.

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Claire wrote:

Cerveza wrote:

Abby wrote:

depravitea wrote:
simply applying for another site, not even doing jobs for them yet, and then getting removed seems pretty extreme

@Wishbone

I mean
if your workplace realised that you applied to another job, they'd do the same most likely

that's jobs and real life

In the netherlands people often say to their boss they are looking for something new tho

and you are on an international website thats currently owned by an aussie. so you have learned something about the way the rest of the world operates and what to expect if youre employed in english speaking countries someday who knows. you can keep saying this over and over about what NL is like but it doesnt actually matter to the outcome here you just have to accept that this went hte way it would go in the country the site is owned in. we've all learned something new about labor practices in other countries.

Cerveza
Streetmusician

Cerveza wrote:

Claire wrote:
like its just wild to me that anyone is like shocked by the outcome here. essentially she decided to move on to a different job and the boss said 'ok so move on here's ur money and i'm removing ur access'

we know wishbone and we know shes like a cool sweet good person- but etjen hasnt known her as long as we have. for all HE knows- after being hired by a competitor she could sabotage things here with the access she has. we know she would never- but many many people would.

but that just isnt true
please read my post on 1 of the earlier pages

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Claire wrote:

Cerveza wrote:

Claire wrote:
like its just wild to me that anyone is like shocked by the outcome here. essentially she decided to move on to a different job and the boss said 'ok so move on here's ur money and i'm removing ur access'

we know wishbone and we know shes like a cool sweet good person- but etjen hasnt known her as long as we have. for all HE knows- after being hired by a competitor she could sabotage things here with the access she has. we know she would never- but many many people would.

but that just isnt true
please read my post on 1 of the earlier pages

it is true because its what happened

Cerveza
Streetmusician

Cerveza wrote:

Claire wrote:

Cerveza wrote:

Claire wrote:
like its just wild to me that anyone is like shocked by the outcome here. essentially she decided to move on to a different job and the boss said 'ok so move on here's ur money and i'm removing ur access'

we know wishbone and we know shes like a cool sweet good person- but etjen hasnt known her as long as we have. for all HE knows- after being hired by a competitor she could sabotage things here with the access she has. we know she would never- but many many people would.

but that just isnt true
please read my post on 1 of the earlier pages

it is true because its what happened

No.

Private
Minister of Pop

Arthema wrote:

Cerveza wrote:

Abby wrote:

depravitea wrote:
simply applying for another site, not even doing jobs for them yet, and then getting removed seems pretty extreme

@Wishbone

I mean
if your workplace realised that you applied to another job, they'd do the same most likely

that's jobs and real life

In the netherlands people often say to their boss they are looking for something new tho without consequences, so it isn't as 'logical' as you state it

But the boss is Australian, not Dutch
so I don't know how valid that argument is here

Private
Minister of Pop

Arthema wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

ctrl wrote:
simply applying for another site, not even doing jobs for them yet, and then getting removed seems pretty extreme

@Wishbone

honestly yeah, it is pretty standard here in germany to apply for a job and then just continue working for your old company when it didn't work out.

really? I was fired for that in Germany LMAO

Cerveza
Streetmusician

Cerveza wrote:

Abby wrote:

Cerveza wrote:

Abby wrote:
I mean
if your workplace realised that you applied to another job, they'd do the same most likely

that's jobs and real life

In the netherlands people often say to their boss they are looking for something new tho without consequences, so it isn't as 'logical' as you state it

But the boss is Australian, not Dutch
so I don't know how valid that argument is here

He lives there, yes. Doesn't mean he can violate a contract tho. As said: please read my post a few of 1 pages back idk

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Sylvan wrote:

Claire wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

ctrl wrote:
simply applying for another site, not even doing jobs for them yet, and then getting removed seems pretty extreme

@Wishbone

honestly yeah, it is pretty standard here in germany to apply for a job and then just continue working for your old company when it didn't work out.

i'm learning a lot about labor rights in other parts of the world from this thread

i mean this happens also in america- but there are MANY companies that fire you when they find out you're looking for work elsewhere. the capitalist value would be that there is no purpose in continuing to nurture their relationship with a resource that wont be around for much longer. the common advice here is to keep your mouth SHUT if youre applying for new jobs. that's between you and the new job the old job does not need that information until you give them your two weeks notice. and many jobs will say 'well forget the two weeks you can end employment today'

Firing someone for applying for another job is actually illegal here.

There can be like clauses(?) in a contract that forbid you to work for a direct competitor for a very limited number of years AFTER quitting. It happens very rarely though and only in positions where the person could use their knowledge and directly apply it at the competitor's company.

So this is why Etjen's reaction seems a bit harsh to me. I am used to the 'it is harder to get rid of an employee because losing your job is a drastic thing and people should be protected from unethical terminations' laws here.

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Claire wrote:

Cerveza wrote:

Abby wrote:

Cerveza wrote:
In the netherlands people often say to their boss they are looking for something new tho without consequences, so it isn't as 'logical' as you state it

But the boss is Australian, not Dutch
so I don't know how valid that argument is here

He lives there, yes. Doesn't mean he can violate a contract tho. As said: please read my post a few of 1 pages back idk

ok but shes getting paid. so the contract has not been violated. it sounds like there was concern about this a few days ago but now we all know she is getting paid so theres no violations.

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Sylvan wrote:

Abby wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

ctrl wrote:
simply applying for another site, not even doing jobs for them yet, and then getting removed seems pretty extreme

@Wishbone

honestly yeah, it is pretty standard here in germany to apply for a job and then just continue working for your old company when it didn't work out.

really? I was fired for that in Germany LMAO

There are some very specific exceptions and it may have very well been illegal to fire you, I'm no lawyer but in general it is illegal to fire someone for simply applying for another job.

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Claire wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

Claire wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
honestly yeah, it is pretty standard here in germany to apply for a job and then just continue working for your old company when it didn't work out.

i'm learning a lot about labor rights in other parts of the world from this thread

i mean this happens also in america- but there are MANY companies that fire you when they find out you're looking for work elsewhere. the capitalist value would be that there is no purpose in continuing to nurture their relationship with a resource that wont be around for much longer. the common advice here is to keep your mouth SHUT if youre applying for new jobs. that's between you and the new job the old job does not need that information until you give them your two weeks notice. and many jobs will say 'well forget the two weeks you can end employment today'

Firing someone for applying for another job is actually illegal here.

There can be like clauses(?) in a contract that forbid you to work for a direct competitor for a very limited number of years AFTER quitting. It happens very rarely though and only in positions where the person could use their knowledge and directly apply it at the competitor's company.

So this is why Etjen's reaction seems a bit harsh to me. I am used to the 'it is harder to get rid of an employee because losing your job is a drastic thing and people should be protected from unethical terminations' laws here.

yea yea "noncompete clauses". interestingly enough- those arent always legal in america. doug had a contract that forbid him from working at another barbershop but that's not actually legal in illinois because doug is a tradesman and had to get licensure for his trade. but people who have higher positions at large companies don't get to work at competitors and like "steal industry knowlege" from the company they left.

Wishbone
National star

Wishbone wrote:

Claire wrote:
like its just wild to me that anyone is like shocked by the outcome here. essentially she decided to move on to a different job and the boss said 'ok so move on here's ur money and i'm removing ur access'

we know wishbone and we know shes like a cool sweet good person- but etjen hasnt known her as long as we have. for all HE knows- after being hired by a competitor she could sabotage things here with the access she has. we know she would never- but many many people would.

If it went like this I wouldn't have had any issues with it at all. But if you read my post on the previous page you will read things went differently. You will also read that I'm not shocked or mad about being fired at all.

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Minister of Pop

Arthema wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

Abby wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
honestly yeah, it is pretty standard here in germany to apply for a job and then just continue working for your old company when it didn't work out.

really? I was fired for that in Germany LMAO

There are some very specific exceptions and it may have very well been illegal to fire you, I'm no lawyer but in general it is illegal to fire someone for simply applying for another job.

ahahaha omg
too bad I did not know it before but god to know

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Claire wrote:

Sylvan wrote:

Abby wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
honestly yeah, it is pretty standard here in germany to apply for a job and then just continue working for your old company when it didn't work out.

really? I was fired for that in Germany LMAO

There are some very specific exceptions and it may have very well been illegal to fire you, I'm no lawyer but in general it is illegal to fire someone for simply applying for another job.

another thing tho as a worker to look out for- and we're pretty far of topic now- but you can be fired for OTHER shit that the employer just makes up when the reality is that theyre firing you for this. you know?