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Date: 03-07-2020 18:57
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ouch wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
ouch wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Rather than transphobic, it's discriminating towards GNC people
Its transphobic too tho, pressuring the trans label on someone because they might not be 100% passing is quite...bleh 
Like, lets just say he was trans for a hot sec, pressuring that on him (with no sort of confirmation from him that he is trans) would make him feel like hes not passing as he wants to etc, which just pushes that u have to be 100% masc to pass as male, when most cis males are typically not 100% masc either 
Ohh, okay, now I get it. Then, yes, I find it transphobic too
But yeah its discriminating more fem cis boys too tho 
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Date: 03-07-2020 18:57
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
ouch wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
ouch wrote:
Its transphobic too tho, pressuring the trans label on someone because they might not be 100% passing is quite...bleh 
Like, lets just say he was trans for a hot sec, pressuring that on him (with no sort of confirmation from him that he is trans) would make him feel like hes not passing as he wants to etc, which just pushes that u have to be 100% masc to pass as male, when most cis males are typically not 100% masc either 
Ohh, okay, now I get it. Then, yes, I find it transphobic too
But yeah its discriminating more fem cis boys too tho 
2-D doesn't deserve that
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Date: 03-07-2020 18:58
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i love everyone you are all valid
I lov u too
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Opulence wrote:
Heaven wrote:
one thing that im curious abt is do u think its valid to have dysphoria and be NB instead of identifying w the opposite gender

lmk
Of course, some NB people for example only want to get top surgery but no bottom surgery, or the other way around etc. Since gender is not a binary, ppl can be dysphoric bc they're not cis, but that doesn't mean they always have to completely be the ''opposite gender'' since there's so much outside of that and in between. And to add to the first sentence, not all trans/NB people always want to transition, transitioning does not equal being valid or not. I also don't really think 'what's valid' is for other people to decide bc it's so different for everyone and that doesn't make someone more or less valid! 
But isn't dysphoria all about the way you feel about your body and your genitals are (feelings wrong about them)? So if, for example, a transgender women wanted to be seen as women physically, wouldn't make more sense for them to try to change their physical appereance? Asking this because it's kinda obvious to see who's trans and who isn't, depending on how they transition, when and if they use more cosmetic surgeries or so, and if you see a transgender woman who does not really pass well, it's easy to see them as male. And I think that would worsen dysphoria
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
Date: 03-07-2020 18:59
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
ouch wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Ohh, okay, now I get it. Then, yes, I find it transphobic too
But yeah its discriminating more fem cis boys too tho 
2-D doesn't deserve that
he really doesn't lmao
Date: 03-07-2020 18:59
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ouch wrote:
Heaven wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
ouch wrote:
But yeah its discriminating more fem cis boys too tho 
2-D doesn't deserve that
he really doesn't lmao
100%
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Heaven wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Opulence wrote:
Of course, some NB people for example only want to get top surgery but no bottom surgery, or the other way around etc. Since gender is not a binary, ppl can be dysphoric bc they're not cis, but that doesn't mean they always have to completely be the ''opposite gender'' since there's so much outside of that and in between. And to add to the first sentence, not all trans/NB people always want to transition, transitioning does not equal being valid or not. I also don't really think 'what's valid' is for other people to decide bc it's so different for everyone and that doesn't make someone more or less valid! 
But isn't dysphoria all about the way you feel about your body and your genitals are (feelings wrong about them)? So if, for example, a transgender women wanted to be seen as women physically, wouldn't make more sense for them to try to change their physical appereance? Asking this because it's kinda obvious to see who's trans and who isn't, depending on how they transition, when and if they use more cosmetic surgeries or so, and if you see a transgender woman who does not really pass well, it's easy to see them as male. And I think that would worsen dysphoria
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
although i'd like to add that that's basically being NB without dysphoria but hh i need the help of a second brain my brain is too small for this lol
Date: 03-07-2020 19:01
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Heaven wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Opulence wrote:
Of course, some NB people for example only want to get top surgery but no bottom surgery, or the other way around etc. Since gender is not a binary, ppl can be dysphoric bc they're not cis, but that doesn't mean they always have to completely be the ''opposite gender'' since there's so much outside of that and in between. And to add to the first sentence, not all trans/NB people always want to transition, transitioning does not equal being valid or not. I also don't really think 'what's valid' is for other people to decide bc it's so different for everyone and that doesn't make someone more or less valid! 
But isn't dysphoria all about the way you feel about your body and your genitals are (feelings wrong about them)? So if, for example, a transgender women wanted to be seen as women physically, wouldn't make more sense for them to try to change their physical appereance? Asking this because it's kinda obvious to see who's trans and who isn't, depending on how they transition, when and if they use more cosmetic surgeries or so, and if you see a transgender woman who does not really pass well, it's easy to see them as male. And I think that would worsen dysphoria
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
But if how they show themselves as being non binary is only physical or the way they dress, then I don't see the point in labeling yourself some way when you could just change your appearance (this is how I'm interpreting it, correct me if I'm wrong)
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Date: 03-07-2020 19:01
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ouch wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Heaven wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
But isn't dysphoria all about the way you feel about your body and your genitals are (feelings wrong about them)? So if, for example, a transgender women wanted to be seen as women physically, wouldn't make more sense for them to try to change their physical appereance? Asking this because it's kinda obvious to see who's trans and who isn't, depending on how they transition, when and if they use more cosmetic surgeries or so, and if you see a transgender woman who does not really pass well, it's easy to see them as male. And I think that would worsen dysphoria
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
although i'd like to add that that's basically being NB without dysphoria but hh i need the help of a second brain my brain is too small for this lol
Yeah but thats just where u have to decide for urself, if gender roles should be enforced or broken tbh
And most ppl r onthe break em train since most ppl r cis even tho they don't fit inside the gender role they should
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Date: 03-07-2020 19:02
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
ouch wrote:
Heaven wrote:
Heaven wrote:
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
although i'd like to add that that's basically being NB without dysphoria but hh i need the help of a second brain my brain is too small for this lol
Yeah but thats just where u have to decide for urself, if gender roles should be enforced or broken tbh
And most ppl r onthe break em train since most ppl r cis even tho they don't fit inside the gender role they should
I think gender/gender roles should be broken, too. It does more harm than good
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Date: 03-07-2020 19:03
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Persona wrote:
Meep wrote:
i like boobs, i hate vagina tho
bleeding every month and weird
i love my boobs and vagina 
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Date: 03-07-2020 19:04
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Persona wrote:
Meep wrote:
i like boobs, i hate vagina tho
bleeding every month and weird
i love my boobs and vagina 
I hate my breasts but I love my vagina, hah
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Heaven wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
But isn't dysphoria all about the way you feel about your body and your genitals are (feelings wrong about them)? So if, for example, a transgender women wanted to be seen as women physically, wouldn't make more sense for them to try to change their physical appereance? Asking this because it's kinda obvious to see who's trans and who isn't, depending on how they transition, when and if they use more cosmetic surgeries or so, and if you see a transgender woman who does not really pass well, it's easy to see them as male. And I think that would worsen dysphoria
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
But if how they show themselves as being non binary is only physical or the way they dress, then I don't see the point in labeling yourself some way when you could just change your appearance (this is how I'm interpreting it, correct me if I'm wrong)
i do agree with that, but i guess it's not only physical but also mental as i had said, you don't feel like either..

honestlie tho considering just being a woman at this point sad lyfe
Date: 03-07-2020 19:04
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Heaven wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Heaven wrote:
i think the thing about being non binary is that u aren't 100% in the middle either, some NB people can lean more towards one gender than the other but still not want to label themselves as that gender.. 
i guess if you're a woman turning into NB, still yet not feeling like a male, you can just get rid of your boobs but like.. still be ok w ur genitalia???? bruh this is honestly 2 complex.
But if how they show themselves as being non binary is only physical or the way they dress, then I don't see the point in labeling yourself some way when you could just change your appearance (this is how I'm interpreting it, correct me if I'm wrong)
i do agree with that, but i guess it's not only physical but also mental as i had said, you don't feel like either..

honestlie tho considering just being a woman at this point sad lyfe
I don't think it should be hurtful to be called a woman, because being a woman or a man is okay. What's wrong is society, for trying to reinforce gender roles. Not many of us fit in them, and some may feel like they perhaps are not even the sex they were born with, and that's honestly depressing
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