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That's the issue I've been running into with each book is that I already know everything its saying bc it goes into such little depth.
I'm loving Mend! though, its very radical, still doesn't go super deep, but much more than a paragraph.

as far as how-to's on repair if you get interested in that yourself lemme know bc the best resources I've found have been the old WW2 make do and mend pamphlets. They're super well illustrated and straight forward.

Feel free to share. I hoard things that likely is usable one day. I am gonna fix a pair of pants in the summer bc i don't have time before that so if u have anything useful ill take it

This is the thing I'm currently working on making a big part of my career as a working artist, so I hope you don't feel like I'm houndin' ya, I'm just stoked anyone else is thinking about it.

www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1502012576
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1502017783
www.mombooks.com/wp-content/uploads/spreads/9781782430278.pdf

Its all fine. Now I am not the only one here going on about a theme.

Thank u! I am gonna save them when i get back on my laptop 🙏🏻

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I just wish clothes could last longer. It's not too long ago when jeans would be pretty solid and lasting longer.. And now the fabric seems to break easily. I really dislike how it's cheaper to get new rather fixing something you already have.
Not only clothes, same goes to techology, phone charger etc. It's all about money. I really dislike how h&m try making their clothes seem more green lately to make them look better/appealing for younger generations who more n more want to be sustainable.

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Versailles wrote:
I just wish clothes could last longer. It's not too long ago when jeans would be pretty solid and lasting longer.. And now the fabric seems to break easily. I really dislike how it's cheaper to get new rather fixing something you already have.
Not only clothes, same goes to techology, phone charger etc. It's all about money. I really dislike how h&m try making their clothes seem more green lately to make them look better/appealing for younger generations who more n more want to be sustainable.

Jeans are a weird one because we've all become accustomed to the elastic found in the form fitting womens jeans.
The oldschool, non stretchy denim is what used to last a long time, but many folks find it uncomfortable.
I don't even own jeans because of it.

also fuck greenwashing which is what h&m is doing.

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I just wish clothes could last longer. It's not too long ago when jeans would be pretty solid and lasting longer.. And now the fabric seems to break easily. I really dislike how it's cheaper to get new rather fixing something you already have.
Not only clothes, same goes to techology, phone charger etc. It's all about money. I really dislike how h&m try making their clothes seem more green lately to make them look better/appealing for younger generations who more n more want to be sustainable.

I love seeing h&m in discussions about sustainability because their talkperson normally always need specifications to even be able to say something vague on an already pretty specific question. Lol #greenwashing i love to hate them (incl. Monki, weekday, cos ++)

But yeah, same, all I try to do is wash my stuff more gently and less. And use them as long as I can, and resell if i grow out of it and my sis don't want it.

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From Mend! A Refashioning Manual and Manifesto by Kate Sekules - quoted directly from the book

"The Seven Magic Shopping Questions
Never Buy Another Mistake!
1. Do I want to wear it out of the store? Would I buy it without one-day shipping? (No? Then leave it on the rack or in the cart.)
2. Do I already have it? (I have two dozen black pants.)
3. Do I have an occasion to wear it? (Cocktail frocks are of limited use.)
4. Do I only want this for my alternate personality? (Mine is attracted to Hermes-style prints, chain loafers, and ladysuits.)
5, Do I want it at twice the price? (An unworn bargain is pricey.)
6. Does it fit me right now? (You won't lose the ten pounds and, honey, you don't need to.)
7. Do I think it's useful? (It's not useful, it's just boring.)

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Shopping Rules
Food for thought:

1. Does the fabric end in -ene, -on, or -ester? It's poisoning something, perhaps you?
2. Are there more than ten branches of this store? It's too big.
3. Have you seen this brand advertised on television? It's too big.
4. Can you believe how cheap this stuff is? Someone else has paid full price, with sweat.
5. Remember "your personal stylist" is in fact a robot and you are its algorithm.
6. If it's new it should not need mending; premade holes and rips are abominations.
7. Is it very stretchy? It probably can't rot and it will definitely wear out fast.
8. The whiter the shirt, the filthier the dirt. Bleach kills the earth.
9. Dress more like the French. Or the Japanese. Or the Italians. They invest in quality.
10. Are you a sheep? Don't shop like one.
11. Are you trash? Don't dress in it.
12. Don't trash it. Mend it, lend it, swap it, sell it, gift it.
13. Pay more, buy less.
14. Buy less.
15. Unless it's secondhand, in which case, go wild.
16. Treat. Yo. Self.
17. Shop slowly. Think twice. Consult your gut.
18. Take care on the way in. Once you own it, you owe it a nice life.
19. Your click-shopping finger turns evil after midnight.
20. Don't worry. Nobody's perfect."

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Nesta wrote:

Versailles wrote:
I just wish clothes could last longer. It's not too long ago when jeans would be pretty solid and lasting longer.. And now the fabric seems to break easily. I really dislike how it's cheaper to get new rather fixing something you already have.
Not only clothes, same goes to techology, phone charger etc. It's all about money. I really dislike how h&m try making their clothes seem more green lately to make them look better/appealing for younger generations who more n more want to be sustainable.

I love seeing h&m in discussions about sustainability because their talkperson normally always need specifications to even be able to say something vague on an already pretty specific question. Lol #greenwashing i love to hate them (incl. Monki, weekday, cos ++)

But yeah, same, all I try to do is wash my stuff more gently and less. And use them as long as I can, and resell if i grow out of it and my sis don't want it.

Same, when it comes to washing i try to directly spots if there is any rather the whole thing. Sometimes I rather freeze my clothes to get rid of bacteria. I rarely throw them away because of it.. I find the fabric too weak for washing machine regularly. Don't understand how it's normalized to buy new clothes v often and replace/throw away - smart for business, bad for the earth and in general people in poverty in bangladesh who makes the clothes for absolutely nothing and bad work enivorement. ugh.

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oh and the greenwashing in many shitty businesses is getting out of hands. Dislike how they use it as marketing strategy. So harmful and unethical.

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Nesta wrote:

Versailles wrote:
I just wish clothes could last longer. It's not too long ago when jeans would be pretty solid and lasting longer.. And now the fabric seems to break easily. I really dislike how it's cheaper to get new rather fixing something you already have.
Not only clothes, same goes to techology, phone charger etc. It's all about money. I really dislike how h&m try making their clothes seem more green lately to make them look better/appealing for younger generations who more n more want to be sustainable.

I love seeing h&m in discussions about sustainability because their talkperson normally always need specifications to even be able to say something vague on an already pretty specific question. Lol #greenwashing i love to hate them (incl. Monki, weekday, cos ++)

But yeah, same, all I try to do is wash my stuff more gently and less. And use them as long as I can, and resell if i grow out of it and my sis don't want it.

From Mend! again,
"Ploys for reeling in the concerned consumer include:

- Carbon offsets. Not reducing their own emissions, but paying to plant a tree someplace else.
- Take-back schemes. Time is needed to recycle a year's taken-back clothes: 234 years. Time taken to remanufacture the same amount back again: 39 days.
- Pledging a thing by a date, then changing the thing's rules on the date. H&M promised to pay all workers a "fair living wage by 2018." In 2018, having totally failed, this pledge changed to installing "improved wage management systems."
- Pledging a thing in the future to get a PR hit now, regardless of success. Francois-Henri Pinault, CEO of Kering, setting a "science-based target," promised to reduce greenhouse gasses )GHG) emissions by 50 percent by 2025, for example. Good luck, Kering!
- Sponsoring sustainable fashion conferences and circular design prices. And getting shouty about them at the annual "Davos of sustainable fashion," the Copenhagen Fashion Summit.
- Massaging numbers, the basic method. For example, Gucci's eco-success rose 80 percent from 2015 to 2018. But factor in the brand's growth and this becomes a 32 percent bigger cost to the planet."

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oh and the greenwashing in many shitty businesses is getting out of hands. Dislike how they use it as marketing strategy. So harmful and unethical.

it's never about doing good
just looking good
I hate it

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I have to go decompose somewhere now.

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I don't know how to even start comment on these on phone lmao

1. One day shipping 😭 what a luxury omg shipping her is like minimum 3 days, but normally it takes 1-2 weeks.
2. Alternate personality. Big mood just there.
3. The rest I am same yes agree I do that

2.1. The one about rotting makes a good point. I haven't seen it put like that before but it's effective.
I didn't fetch the sheep one. Wool?
Number 19 i cried 😂

3.1. I haven't heard about take back schemes before (i think, maybe in other words) but the statistics is insane!!
I hate pledging. Its like politicians, vague.

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Nesta wrote:
I don't know how to even start comment on these on phone lmao

1. One day shipping 😭 what a luxury omg shipping her is like minimum 3 days, but normally it takes 1-2 weeks.
2. Alternate personality. Big mood just there.
3. The rest I am same yes agree I do that

2.1. The one about rotting makes a good point. I haven't seen it put like that before but it's effective.
I didn't fetch the sheep one. Wool?
Number 19 i cried 😂

3.1. I haven't heard about take back schemes before (i think, maybe in other words) but the statistics is insane!!
I hate pledging. Its like politicians, vague.

I don't agree with all her "shopping rules" but they do speak to me in a certain kind of way. They feel nonjudgemental which I love. Green culture can be so gatekeepy.

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Nesta wrote:
I don't know how to even start comment on these on phone lmao

1. One day shipping 😭 what a luxury omg shipping her is like minimum 3 days, but normally it takes 1-2 weeks.
2. Alternate personality. Big mood just there.
3. The rest I am same yes agree I do that

2.1. The one about rotting makes a good point. I haven't seen it put like that before but it's effective.
I didn't fetch the sheep one. Wool?
Number 19 i cried 😂

3.1. I haven't heard about take back schemes before (i think, maybe in other words) but the statistics is insane!!
I hate pledging. Its like politicians, vague.

I don't agree with all her "shopping rules" but they do speak to me in a certain kind of way. They feel nonjudgemental which I love. Green culture can be so gatekeepy.

I don't get all of them tbh

Yeah i am sure it is. Like i just hang around here on vp so i dunno rly social media or stuff anymore, or how they gatekeep stuff. I am just staying out of that bc it's flooded at this point I figured I better just follow a few ppl and then do/learn my own around it from proper sources and take my own time with it ofc!

I sorta have a weak spot for holes in clothes tho.. Or like a good pair ripped pants, just that compared to last time I got a pair when I knew nothing of this, I would get a vintage /secondhand piece this time around 😔 I've been spotting some for a while but I am unsure about the seller (etsy) - or if i should just take it as good fish (is that a english expression too?)

What do u feel is the most gatekept part?

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Just reached ch 6 about Denim, but won't read it today. My head is full.

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Barbarella wrote:

Nesta wrote:

BrainFilth wrote:

Nesta wrote:
I don't know how to even start comment on these on phone lmao

1. One day shipping 😭 what a luxury omg shipping her is like minimum 3 days, but normally it takes 1-2 weeks.
2. Alternate personality. Big mood just there.
3. The rest I am same yes agree I do that

2.1. The one about rotting makes a good point. I haven't seen it put like that before but it's effective.
I didn't fetch the sheep one. Wool?
Number 19 i cried 😂

3.1. I haven't heard about take back schemes before (i think, maybe in other words) but the statistics is insane!!
I hate pledging. Its like politicians, vague.

I don't agree with all her "shopping rules" but they do speak to me in a certain kind of way. They feel nonjudgemental which I love. Green culture can be so gatekeepy.

I don't get all of them tbh

Yeah i am sure it is. Like i just hang around here on vp so i dunno rly social media or stuff anymore, or how they gatekeep stuff. I am just staying out of that bc it's flooded at this point I figured I better just follow a few ppl and then do/learn my own around it from proper sources and take my own time with it ofc!

I sorta have a weak spot for holes in clothes tho.. Or like a good pair ripped pants, just that compared to last time I got a pair when I knew nothing of this, I would get a vintage /secondhand piece this time around 😔 I've been spotting some for a while but I am unsure about the seller (etsy) - or if i should just take it as good fish (is that a english expression too?)

What do u feel is the most gatekept part?

You should look into framing holes in pants, keeps the holes from spreading.

and it feels gatekeepy because everyone wants you to be fucking perfect, throw your plastic out and replace it with fancy glass, buy things that are supposed to last forever completely ignoring that folks in poverty cant do that, and also, that their buying used is actually way better than whatever new thing you've bought, no matter how green/sustainably sourced. 5 used reusable waterbottles from the thrift store is still "greener" than one hydroflask or what-the-fuck-ever is the current trend in BIFL. But folks have been brainwashed to not only be consumers, but to judge folks who are just doing their best.