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Eostre wrote:
my brain right now:
- washing tools for kitchen and bathroom (detergents, tools. how many do I need like do I really need detergents for every room, can I just DIY it or will I not. how many cloths do I need and like kitchen towels)
- how to store food (containers but plastic, no plastic lid? metal? glass? plastic?) 
- if i'm gonna do some more w my compost or not (originally i was trying to do a no-dig bed, but it isn't working out so it might be a "i will dig bed" instead)
- i need sunscreen but mineral or chemical, plastic, metal tin or paper packaging? 
- i need a new duvet and probably a madrass for when I move out --> do i pick the local one that let me clean it and fix it when it gets old w dove from a old, local company? or without dove w none of that?
- and i probably need a towel or two as well 
- and all the other minor details i have not thought about yet
*screech*

MasileinDE wrote:
I usually wipe down crumbs to the floor and then vacuum, yes
but then every time I do the dishes (which is daily since no washing machine), I wipe the countertop and stovetop with a wet sponge tissue (? - these here, it's in German but I'm sure you can find comparable things in Norway). You can throw them in the washing machine with your tea towels. I usually use them in the kitchen until they start looking a bit gross (because after about 10 washes they start to be discoloured a bit or start breaking because I hang them over the sink to dry. Then I just use them to clean in the bathroom.

Also once a week I completely scrub down the cooking surface and kitchensink with an all-purpose cleaner

Bathroom I also mostly just vacuum the floor and then do the appliances and such once a week (like sink, shower, toilet) with a citrus cleaner because of the limescale.

Once a month, I mop my apartment and also clean like the mirror in the bathroom and descale the shower door.
Also, for dusting I use one of those microfiber dusting cloths. they are amazing for quick dusting in between (I do that every couple of days, just giving the broad surfaces a wipe) You can use them a couple of times, just beat the dust out of them outside and you can use them for a few weeks before throwing them in the washer. They lose their fluffyness after a few cycles, but they still work perfectly

I realise microfibre might not be the best because of the whole microplastic thing
but honestly, so far it seems the best I can find, because a lot of the cotton based towels just don't clean as well
though I have to say, I really only use them for cleaning and dusting, so I feel like my 4 microfibre tissues really aren't that big of an issue on the big scale

oh and I also recently invested into a silicone "sponge" and I like it, definitely better than the dish brush I was using before

MasileinDE wrote:
okay, in all honesty, you don't need that many special target cleaners
most of them are actually the same and just use either a shitton of chemicals (that you don't need if you clean regularly) or are just different rebrands and different smells to go for the "clean home" vibe

you need one all purpose cleaner that you can dillute in water to mop the floors (which you can also use for surfaces, though for quicker cleaning most people swear by having them in spray bottles)
you can get a whole bunch of them nowadays in those tabs to refill (at least it's common practice in many countries and even Germany has like two brands already that do it)

then I'd say dishsoap (goes a long way on every surface that has to struggle with grease, so brilliant in the kitchen) and vinegar. You can use dishsoap and vinegar in lukewarm water and it's the perfect thing to clean glass surfaces like windows and mirrors

for lime scale or burnt in, get yourself a scraper, they are miracle workers!

Cloths I only have like 5 in total and I can super rotate through them
kitchen towels I have more since I want to have enough to be able to fill a whole washing machine with tea towels (it's better to clean them together and only having so few that you fill only half the waching machine is just  a huge waste of water)



the food storage really is the most stressfull one, because even the glass containers usually come with plastic tops. so there's really little you can do about going fully plastic free. but I'd say that little plastic and considering you will use it for 5+ years and not heat it (since you don't put the lid in the microwave and only close it after the food cooled down significantly) you shouldn't really impact its life expectancy too much onto the short side
but I've seen stainless steel containers with steel lids and they were really amazing. I'll have to check where, I think it was an Asian mommy blogger? (yes, household blogs are my guilty pleasure) I'll find it again for you if you want!

Eostre wrote:
* those are like those swedish discloths. they are easy to find here too!
* all-purpose cleaner is a check in my planner  so double-check (i'm gonna get ocean saver, I think, and use a glass bottle)
* limescale - must think about that too, ty
* mop - i have been considering this brand but it's like microfiber based but it says u don't need detergents allegedly. they say you just need water to clean and that is sheds very little microfibers and can last very long.  but still.. microfibers. 
* dust cloth  - yes it's a mood, microfibers are the best for dust and i do not like dust seriously, we suck at dust cleaning in this house and it makes all other cleaning hideous.


and i'm thinking about getting this sponge thing for the bathroom surfaces:
www.beeorganic.no/products/plastfri-rengjoringssvampmaistic

Eostre wrote:
I don't think I've seen any ppl actually liking this idea for dish soap 

Eostre wrote:
good you're validating my months long plans for moving out like good, two dolls, one braincell!
omg bless *dries sweat*

MasileinDE wrote:
I think the issue with those is that you couldn't really do the dishes in a bed of soapy water like you usually would - which does save on water if you have more than just one plate and a spoon to clean.
it sounds like  a great idea for small cleaning jobs in between, where you just add a bit of dishsoap to your brush and get at it
but for doing full-on dishes with 5 plates and pans and pots? seems like you'll just be scrubbing at the soap all the time

Eostre wrote:

yeah, that's really it. like not looking for more time consuming things than what I already have. or longer washing jobs or anything. 

we have a (1) refill option in the city for like soaps but they are so expensive.. like 49NOK\hg (5,20USD\hekto)


oh and i also found these cloths in viscose. they are like half a dollar a piece, and should be reusable quite a few times. but idk how well viscose cleans.
etikken.no/produkt/maistic-all-purpose-cloth-viscose-1-stk/

MasileinDE wrote:
please tell me I'm relieving stress and not making additional one

MasileinDE wrote:
ok, I scoured through my youtube and found these containers again
they don't seem to close that well (like it's no suction closing like you have with the plastic lids with the silicone lining, so I wouldn't trust them with transporting food that could spill)
but they might be a bit more to your liking? I'm currently trying to figure out where she got them from
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