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Beegoesbzz
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MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
I mean, let's be real
no one is interested in you trying to play "devil's advocate" with such a question without actually bringing up the question you truly want to answer
no need to "gotcha!" people with stupid examples if you're trying to goad anyone into saying something they don't actually mean by twisting and turning examples

so, ask your real question and we give you real answer
how does that sound?
I could do that but that would make things less fun for me. I think gotchas are fun!
(yes that includes when it's done against me). It's not like we're having a serious debate when we have people who say the kid is somehow in the wrong anyways.
I'd say first learn what tourette is and how that doesn't mean people go out hitting around them like maniacs - someone with tourette hitting someone is actually super rare, because that's not how tourette works
because in that case both are in the wrong
you don't hit someone just out of no where, no matter if it's a kid or an adult
sure, someone who has muscle spasms and can't control their limbs as people without physical disabilities can isn't really at fault like someone who's maliciously doing so
but that still doesn't mean you can hit people
actually, for those that fits to it's kind of a given that they don't put themselves into situations where they hit people unintentionally (I knew someone who was having spasms like that and they purposefully never went anywhere where too many people were because they didn't want to hit someone by accident)

so, what is your point?
There are different types of tourettes. Some are verbal, some are physical.
It is most certainly possible for someone with tourettes to accidentally hit a kid as I've seen it happen with my own eyes (the accidental hitting, it wasn't a kid in my anecdotal example but it might as well could've been).
Beegoesbzz
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Pavlov wrote:
is this actually just a continuation of ur racism thread
No.
Pavlov
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MasileinDE wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
what else do you think?
seems kinda pointless to use an example other than that in the first place
not if you want to make an assinine point and then gloat about how you got everyone and their twisted morals exposed and how everyone is bad but you're actually good, because you're able to point out everyone's inate bias
big brain move here, we gotta appreciate the effort
dont be so mean to them, i can empathize to some degree with their poor attempt at creating conversations
MasileinDE
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beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
I could do that but that would make things less fun for me. I think gotchas are fun!
(yes that includes when it's done against me). It's not like we're having a serious debate when we have people who say the kid is somehow in the wrong anyways.
I'd say first learn what tourette is and how that doesn't mean people go out hitting around them like maniacs - someone with tourette hitting someone is actually super rare, because that's not how tourette works
because in that case both are in the wrong
you don't hit someone just out of no where, no matter if it's a kid or an adult
sure, someone who has muscle spasms and can't control their limbs as people without physical disabilities can isn't really at fault like someone who's maliciously doing so
but that still doesn't mean you can hit people
actually, for those that fits to it's kind of a given that they don't put themselves into situations where they hit people unintentionally (I knew someone who was having spasms like that and they purposefully never went anywhere where too many people were because they didn't want to hit someone by accident)

so, what is your point?
There are different types of tourettes. Some are verbal, some are physical.
It is most certainly possible for someone with tourettes to accidentally hit a kid as I've seen it happen with my own eyes (the accidental hitting, it wasn't a kid in my anecdotal example but it might as well could've been).
suuuuuuuper rare though
so basically a 1 in a million example
so great example
what do you think? is the person a bad person for hitting someone? or are they to be excempt from moral conduct because of their disability? or is there maybe a grey area in the middle that society hates because grey areas love to be exploited by those who wouldn't fit into the grey area to begin with?
MasileinDE
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Pavlov wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
seems kinda pointless to use an example other than that in the first place
not if you want to make an assinine point and then gloat about how you got everyone and their twisted morals exposed and how everyone is bad but you're actually good, because you're able to point out everyone's inate bias
big brain move here, we gotta appreciate the effort
dont be so mean to them, i can empathize to some degree with their poor attempt at creating conversations
being mean is my love language

Pavlov
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unrelated but im pretty sure i once accidentally hit a baby with my backback when i was on a crowded bus, but who the fuck stands on a crowded bus with their baby in the first place smh its clearly their fault
Beegoesbzz
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MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
I'd say first learn what tourette is and how that doesn't mean people go out hitting around them like maniacs - someone with tourette hitting someone is actually super rare, because that's not how tourette works
because in that case both are in the wrong
you don't hit someone just out of no where, no matter if it's a kid or an adult
sure, someone who has muscle spasms and can't control their limbs as people without physical disabilities can isn't really at fault like someone who's maliciously doing so
but that still doesn't mean you can hit people
actually, for those that fits to it's kind of a given that they don't put themselves into situations where they hit people unintentionally (I knew someone who was having spasms like that and they purposefully never went anywhere where too many people were because they didn't want to hit someone by accident)

so, what is your point?
There are different types of tourettes. Some are verbal, some are physical.
It is most certainly possible for someone with tourettes to accidentally hit a kid as I've seen it happen with my own eyes (the accidental hitting, it wasn't a kid in my anecdotal example but it might as well could've been).
suuuuuuuper rare though
so basically a 1 in a million example
so great example
what do you think? is the person a bad person for hitting someone? or are they to be excempt from moral conduct because of their disability? or is there maybe a grey area in the middle that society hates because grey areas love to be exploited by those who wouldn't fit into the grey area to begin with?
Where did you get that number from?
Regardless how "rare", I at least got you to admit that it's possible. Thank you for that.

To answer your question, of course person b) is the least moral in this case. I consider intentionally hitting someone to be worse than doing it accidentally. I thought it would be fairly obvious.
MasileinDE
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Pavlov wrote:
unrelated but im pretty sure i once accidentally hit a baby with my backback when i was on a crowded bus, but who the fuck stands on a crowded bus with their baby in the first place smh its clearly their fault
I mean, let's be real, you can always get into a situation to physically hurt someone because of outside circumstances and not because you wanted to do so
should have been more careful as to not hit someone, but also nothing to start a whole movement against because of it, because it's not that deep
MasileinDE
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beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
There are different types of tourettes. Some are verbal, some are physical.
It is most certainly possible for someone with tourettes to accidentally hit a kid as I've seen it happen with my own eyes (the accidental hitting, it wasn't a kid in my anecdotal example but it might as well could've been).
suuuuuuuper rare though
so basically a 1 in a million example
so great example
what do you think? is the person a bad person for hitting someone? or are they to be excempt from moral conduct because of their disability? or is there maybe a grey area in the middle that society hates because grey areas love to be exploited by those who wouldn't fit into the grey area to begin with?
Where did you get that number from?
Regardless how "rare", I at least got you to admit that it's possible. Thank you for that.

To answer your question, of course person b) is the least moral in this case. I consider intentionally hitting someone to be worse than doing it accidentally. I thought it would be fairly obvious.
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know this was a fact based only real numbers absolute truth kind of discussion
it's hyperbole and guesstimation based on it not even being marked as typical symptom of physical tourette expressions

great
now, what was the question you actually wanted to know
because we still haven't gotten to that and I already engaged way too much with this stupid little argument
Beegoesbzz
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MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
suuuuuuuper rare though
so basically a 1 in a million example
so great example
what do you think? is the person a bad person for hitting someone? or are they to be excempt from moral conduct because of their disability? or is there maybe a grey area in the middle that society hates because grey areas love to be exploited by those who wouldn't fit into the grey area to begin with?
Where did you get that number from?
Regardless how "rare", I at least got you to admit that it's possible. Thank you for that.

To answer your question, of course person b) is the least moral in this case. I consider intentionally hitting someone to be worse than doing it accidentally. I thought it would be fairly obvious.
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know this was a fact based only real numbers absolute truth kind of discussion
it's hyperbole and guesstimation based on it not even being marked as typical symptom of physical tourette expressions

great
now, what was the question you actually wanted to know
because we still haven't gotten to that and I already engaged way too much with this stupid little argument
Why are you in such a rush?
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Is this another one of those people whos sole purpose is to create drama on vp?
MasileinDE
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beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
Where did you get that number from?
Regardless how "rare", I at least got you to admit that it's possible. Thank you for that.

To answer your question, of course person b) is the least moral in this case. I consider intentionally hitting someone to be worse than doing it accidentally. I thought it would be fairly obvious.
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know this was a fact based only real numbers absolute truth kind of discussion
it's hyperbole and guesstimation based on it not even being marked as typical symptom of physical tourette expressions

great
now, what was the question you actually wanted to know
because we still haven't gotten to that and I already engaged way too much with this stupid little argument
Why are you in such a rush?
I got things to do? sorry for having a life...
MasileinDE
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NOface wrote:
Is this another one of those people whos sole purpose is to create drama on vp?
probably
but honestly, at this point let's indulge the trolls until they get too bad and get themselves banned
Pavlov
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NOface wrote:
Is this another one of those people whos sole purpose is to create drama on vp?
i dont think we can judge as long as we ourselves use vp as well, whether you use it for trolling or for talking about your sex life doesnt really change much, its still equally shameful
Beegoesbzz
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MasileinDE wrote:
beegoesbzz wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know this was a fact based only real numbers absolute truth kind of discussion
it's hyperbole and guesstimation based on it not even being marked as typical symptom of physical tourette expressions

great
now, what was the question you actually wanted to know
because we still haven't gotten to that and I already engaged way too much with this stupid little argument
Why are you in such a rush?
I got things to do? sorry for having a life...
Fair enough. I will hereby give you permission to leave this thread. You are free to go now.
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