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Claire wrote:
you know during the clinton v trump election i had one friend who kept 'both sides'ing about the election and i ended upjust telling her the topic was off limits if she wwanted to pretend trump was a normal politician she wasnt gonna play that game with me and eventually her shit opinion passed and things went back to normal
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Date: 21-08-2022 22:17
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

I understand not wanting to quit a friendship for some potential red flags, but maybe just keep an eye out on it and if you have the energy for it, offer counterpoints to not persist in an echo chamber (for neither of you).

But I feel like this "I'm not a good person to be around either" really feels like "I'd rather eat poison that going out to look for proper food". You're allowed to have standards even if you think you don't fulfill them yourself.
Most people wouldn't want to be friends with themselves - we have a very biased view on ourselves and don't realise it as such because we think we know ourselves best. We don't, we hyperfocus on the wrong things, either thinking we're the best thing since sliced bread or thinking we are the worst trash this earth has ever seen.

You might be either for some, but who you are isn't one individuals perception of you alone (not even if that one individual is you). I know, you're around yourself a lot and have to put up with yourself way more than anyone else has to, which probably makes it feel like you're not a good person to be around. But that's mostly because everything in excess (no matter how good it may be) is bad. And again, you don't know the sum of your parts as well as your surrounding does.


(if there's any "k"s or dots missing, my keyboard hates me and is not working on random keys because life is a fucking mess)
I don't have a huge issue with it personally I'm just worried he'll end up being very extremist if he continues 
be there to offer being a "guide" to balance his media input if you want to, but if he's a grown man, he'll have to tae up the responsibility of what he consumes and how he perceives the world himself and thus live with potential consequences
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Date: 21-08-2022 22:19
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wug wrote:
Claire wrote:
you know during the clinton v trump election i had one friend who kept 'both sides'ing about the election and i ended upjust telling her the topic was off limits if she wwanted to pretend trump was a normal politician she wasnt gonna play that game with me and eventually her shit opinion passed and things went back to normal
there isn't two sides in america, they can say it however much they want but the two parties are surprisingly similar considering that there are no other options at all 
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Date: 21-08-2022 22:21
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
you know during the clinton v trump election i had one friend who kept 'both sides'ing about the election and i ended upjust telling her the topic was off limits if she wwanted to pretend trump was a normal politician she wasnt gonna play that game with me and eventually her shit opinion passed and things went back to normal
this


sometimes these escapades into that political territory are driven by a sense of loss or misery in life (good luc not feeling that with the current climate) so a lot of people drift into the shallow waters but come bac around once they see that their misery isn't because of the enemy they tried to latch on (which is often super easy on the right wing side, because it very much feels lie a "the other ones are always at fault for me being unhappy";)
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Date: 21-08-2022 22:22
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wug wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

I understand not wanting to quit a friendship for some potential red flags, but maybe just keep an eye out on it and if you have the energy for it, offer counterpoints to not persist in an echo chamber (for neither of you).

But I feel like this "I'm not a good person to be around either" really feels like "I'd rather eat poison that going out to look for proper food". You're allowed to have standards even if you think you don't fulfill them yourself.
Most people wouldn't want to be friends with themselves - we have a very biased view on ourselves and don't realise it as such because we think we know ourselves best. We don't, we hyperfocus on the wrong things, either thinking we're the best thing since sliced bread or thinking we are the worst trash this earth has ever seen.

You might be either for some, but who you are isn't one individuals perception of you alone (not even if that one individual is you). I know, you're around yourself a lot and have to put up with yourself way more than anyone else has to, which probably makes it feel like you're not a good person to be around. But that's mostly because everything in excess (no matter how good it may be) is bad. And again, you don't know the sum of your parts as well as your surrounding does.


(if there's any "k"s or dots missing, my keyboard hates me and is not working on random keys because life is a fucking mess)
I don't have a huge issue with it personally I'm just worried he'll end up being very extremist if he continues 
be there to offer being a "guide" to balance his media input if you want to, but if he's a grown man, he'll have to tae up the responsibility of what he consumes and how he perceives the world himself and thus live with potential consequences
yeah of course 
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Date: 21-08-2022 22:22
Shila
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Shila wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Shila wrote:
Petersen is much more than what SJWs on Twitter make him out to be. He has some very valid points if you familiarize with his stuff. 
Thanks for informing me but I'm not on Twitter, I do not know what "SJWs" think about him. Pretty much all I know about him is from my mate and I violently disagree with what I've heard as I find it to be quite primitive 
If you find that values you and your friend share to be wildly opposite, it's probably not a good friendship match at a core level and Petersen has little to do with it.
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Date: 21-08-2022 23:23
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wug wrote:
Shila wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Shila wrote:
Petersen is much more than what SJWs on Twitter make him out to be. He has some very valid points if you familiarize with his stuff. 
Thanks for informing me but I'm not on Twitter, I do not know what "SJWs" think about him. Pretty much all I know about him is from my mate and I violently disagree with what I've heard as I find it to be quite primitive 
If you find that values you and your friend share to be wildly opposite, it's probably not a good friendship match at a core level and Petersen has little to do with it.
Idk I'm not in kindergarten so I don't think like that 
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Date: 22-08-2022 08:58
Shila
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Shila wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Shila wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Thanks for informing me but I'm not on Twitter, I do not know what "SJWs" think about him. Pretty much all I know about him is from my mate and I violently disagree with what I've heard as I find it to be quite primitive 
If you find that values you and your friend share to be wildly opposite, it's probably not a good friendship match at a core level and Petersen has little to do with it.
Idk I'm not in kindergarten so I don't think like that 
no idea what being in kindergarten has to do with this but ok
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Date: 22-08-2022 10:49
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Shila wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Shila wrote:
If you find that values you and your friend share to be wildly opposite, it's probably not a good friendship match at a core level and Petersen has little to do with it.
Idk I'm not in kindergarten so I don't think like that 
no idea what being in kindergarten has to do with this but ok
I believe he means that friendships are more complex than that when you're older than a child.
Date: 22-08-2022 11:00
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wug wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Shila wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Idk I'm not in kindergarten so I don't think like that 
no idea what being in kindergarten has to do with this but ok
I believe he means that friendships are more complex than that when you're older than a child.
Yeah that's exactly what I mean, it's too simplistic to exclusively be friends with people who have the exact same opinions and values as yourself, that's just boring. 
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Date: 22-08-2022 11:01
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
thanks for reminding me of the time I dated a guy who had a ben shapiro loving roommate who always tried to show me MTGOW videos and shit 

i ended up getting sent home in a cop car after punching said roommate in the face while drinking cuz he made shitty comments about abortion. They were kind enough to drop the charges so I didn't go to jail (: 
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Date: 22-08-2022 11:10
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wug wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
thanks for reminding me of the time I dated a guy who had a ben shapiro loving roommate who always tried to show me MTGOW videos and shit 

i ended up getting sent home in a cop car after punching said roommate in the face while drinking cuz he made shitty comments about abortion. They were kind enough to drop the charges so I didn't go to jail (: 
I fail to see how violence solves anything but you do you I guess 
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Date: 22-08-2022 11:11
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
thanks for reminding me of the time I dated a guy who had a ben shapiro loving roommate who always tried to show me MTGOW videos and shit 

i ended up getting sent home in a cop car after punching said roommate in the face while drinking cuz he made shitty comments about abortion. They were kind enough to drop the charges so I didn't go to jail (: 
I fail to see how violence solves anything but you do you I guess 
let's just say I've cut back drastically on drinking 
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Date: 22-08-2022 11:12
Private
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wug wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
thanks for reminding me of the time I dated a guy who had a ben shapiro loving roommate who always tried to show me MTGOW videos and shit 

i ended up getting sent home in a cop car after punching said roommate in the face while drinking cuz he made shitty comments about abortion. They were kind enough to drop the charges so I didn't go to jail (: 
I fail to see how violence solves anything but you do you I guess 
let's just say I've cut back drastically on drinking 
I see 
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Date: 22-08-2022 11:13
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
ok since ur looking for advice

basically agree with @Barbarella 

tho do remember that some people are lost causes 

I'd say go for it, have a discussion, see if he's open

that will help you know if he's close minded or willing to reconsider and think deeply about his beliefs and such
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Date: 22-08-2022 11:18
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