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Alam
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Alam wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Alam wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
if you want people to understand you you're doing a terrible job

I understand him, I think this is a you problem.

okay well good that you understand each other, but someone here is trying to learn and this attitude is gonna get you nowhere in the real world

I don't want to go anywhere, I just want to be happy.

MasileinDE
International star

MasileinDE wrote:

Heaven wrote:

Alam wrote:

Heaven wrote:
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Totally, it should be more like "I have anxiety so I can't buy something at the counter" "It's okay, let's work on that."

yes!!! this.. i wish people on the internet thought more like this, it's so much healthier and it will help u way more than just adapting to this "dysfunctional" lifestyle.. i've re-realized this differently bc i myself have almost fell into that mindset and it was doing no good for me lol rip

there's so many people online enabling (or disabling maybe in this context) people with mental illnesses and making them to be some person who won't ever be able to function in our society just out of this mind of "we have to be accepting of everything and all" on such a radical level, that they'd want to change everybody who doesn't have anxiety so those who struggle shouldn't have to feel left out
maybe that sounds a bit harsh? I don't know how to phrase it better, but there's so many like "Oh, yeah, you have anxiety, you don#t have to do anything or work on that, the world should all change and do shit for you because you can't" like bitch, so many people have anxiety and still make do, doesn't mean they are happy about it, but they make do and it works

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regarding the ouch racism/[blablabla]phobia/pedophilia opinion

TW pedophilia obvi

i guess that ouch is saying that u cannot force someone out of that mindset if they are stubborn and not that you should anyways, but i personally think that everyone who thinks that way should be educated on why their views are wrong, but i'm not gonna make them convert to the "right moral compass", just /attempt/ to make them understand that it's wrong. . .

as for pedophilia, i think there is a difference between a child molester/predator and a pedophile. i strictly believe that pedophiles who don't act upon their thoughts and urges should get mental help before they come remotely close to acting upon it, but if one eventually becomes a child molester they should just be dropped and be considered a disgusting person

Koolaid
Popstar

Koolaid wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:
i don't feel like anything

if you can't explain your point then how am i supposed to understand you?

The entire notion of using real to exclusively mean biological women are without a doubt problematic as it automatically invalidates transwomen, why on earth are they not real women? Only because they aren't biological women. Does that mean that a transwoman is a real man? A few issues emerge with real = biological. My argument is chaotic but honestly it shouldn't even be needed to attempt to explain it. Use biological rather than real if that is what you mean.

because the definition of a woman is a biological concept, just like female. you can't just change the definition of woman itself. what you can do, is use trans woman, someone who has transitioned to a woman. so the statement should be
women are women
trans women are trans women

why is that bad?

Private
International star

Emo wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Emo wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
and that is...

A person who identifies as a woman

ok spicy opinion but just saying you identify as something does not make you the thing

Then what makes you the thing?

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MasileinDE wrote:

Heaven wrote:

Alam wrote:
Totally, it should be more like "I have anxiety so I can't buy something at the counter" "It's okay, let's work on that."

yes!!! this.. i wish people on the internet thought more like this, it's so much healthier and it will help u way more than just adapting to this "dysfunctional" lifestyle.. i've re-realized this differently bc i myself have almost fell into that mindset and it was doing no good for me lol rip

there's so many people online enabling (or disabling maybe in this context) people with mental illnesses and making them to be some person who won't ever be able to function in our society just out of this mind of "we have to be accepting of everything and all" on such a radical level, that they'd want to change everybody who doesn't have anxiety so those who struggle shouldn't have to feel left out
maybe that sounds a bit harsh? I don't know how to phrase it better, but there's so many like "Oh, yeah, you have anxiety, you don#t have to do anything or work on that, the world should all change and do shit for you because you can't" like bitch, so many people have anxiety and still make do, doesn't mean they are happy about it, but they make do and it works

i agree with the way you think, society is not going to adapt to how you function in life and it may seem unfortunate but you must adapt to it despite how.. mean this seems

Alam
World famous

Alam wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
if you can't explain your point then how am i supposed to understand you?

The entire notion of using real to exclusively mean biological women are without a doubt problematic as it automatically invalidates transwomen, why on earth are they not real women? Only because they aren't biological women. Does that mean that a transwoman is a real man? A few issues emerge with real = biological. My argument is chaotic but honestly it shouldn't even be needed to attempt to explain it. Use biological rather than real if that is what you mean.

because the definition of a woman is a biological concept, just like female. you can't just change the definition of woman itself. what you can do, is use trans woman, someone who has transitioned to a woman. so the statement should be
women are women
trans women are trans women

why is that bad?

If they transitioned to a women wouldn't that make them, I don't know, a woman?

MasileinDE
International star

MasileinDE wrote:
ohhh, to jump in on the trans thing:
when people are like trans woman can't be real women, because they aren't biologically female and being a real woman means to be able to have children and then I'm sitting here like: you do realise that there is more and more "real women" who struggle with having children, they go infertile earlier and earlier and no one understands why and it destroys LIFES that people can't have their own children
like, are infertile women fake women too?
it makes no sense and isn't just discriminating towards trans women (ultimately kinda against trans men too, just opposite argument), it also invalidates every person who struggles with fertility

Koolaid
Popstar

Koolaid wrote:

Alam wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:
The entire notion of using real to exclusively mean biological women are without a doubt problematic as it automatically invalidates transwomen, why on earth are they not real women? Only because they aren't biological women. Does that mean that a transwoman is a real man? A few issues emerge with real = biological. My argument is chaotic but honestly it shouldn't even be needed to attempt to explain it. Use biological rather than real if that is what you mean.

because the definition of a woman is a biological concept, just like female. you can't just change the definition of woman itself. what you can do, is use trans woman, someone who has transitioned to a woman. so the statement should be
women are women
trans women are trans women

why is that bad?

If they transitioned to a women wouldn't that make them, I don't know, a woman?

it makes them a trans women. maybe a better question: why is that such a bad thing?

Private
International star

wug wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
if you can't explain your point then how am i supposed to understand you?

The entire notion of using real to exclusively mean biological women are without a doubt problematic as it automatically invalidates transwomen, why on earth are they not real women? Only because they aren't biological women. Does that mean that a transwoman is a real man? A few issues emerge with real = biological. My argument is chaotic but honestly it shouldn't even be needed to attempt to explain it. Use biological rather than real if that is what you mean.

because the definition of a woman is a biological concept, just like female. you can't just change the definition of woman itself. what you can do, is use trans woman, someone who has transitioned to a woman. so the statement should be
women are women
trans women are trans women

why is that bad?

I'm sorry I'm not going to spend my evening attempting to argue over the usage of real vs biological related to gender and sex because to be frank I have better things to spend my life on.

Koolaid
Popstar

Koolaid wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:
ohhh, to jump in on the trans thing:
when people are like trans woman can't be real women, because they aren't biologically female and being a real woman means to be able to have children and then I'm sitting here like: you do realise that there is more and more "real women" who struggle with having children, they go infertile earlier and earlier and no one understands why and it destroys LIFES that people can't have their own children
like, are infertile women fake women too?
it makes no sense and isn't just discriminating towards trans women (ultimately kinda against trans men too, just opposite argument), it also invalidates every person who struggles with fertility

fertility is not what makes you a woman though

Gilmore
Living legend

Gilmore wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:

Gilmore wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:

shshshsh it's a juicy one

like fruit pieces have no business in juice

pspspfppf I haven't yet COMPLETELY ruined my chances on getting friends here so I won't say it

MasileinDE
International star

MasileinDE wrote:

Heaven wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:

Heaven wrote:
yes!!! this.. i wish people on the internet thought more like this, it's so much healthier and it will help u way more than just adapting to this "dysfunctional" lifestyle.. i've re-realized this differently bc i myself have almost fell into that mindset and it was doing no good for me lol rip

there's so many people online enabling (or disabling maybe in this context) people with mental illnesses and making them to be some person who won't ever be able to function in our society just out of this mind of "we have to be accepting of everything and all" on such a radical level, that they'd want to change everybody who doesn't have anxiety so those who struggle shouldn't have to feel left out
maybe that sounds a bit harsh? I don't know how to phrase it better, but there's so many like "Oh, yeah, you have anxiety, you don#t have to do anything or work on that, the world should all change and do shit for you because you can't" like bitch, so many people have anxiety and still make do, doesn't mean they are happy about it, but they make do and it works

i agree with the way you think, society is not going to adapt to how you function in life and it may seem unfortunate but you must adapt to it despite how.. mean this seems

exactly
society works for the common denominator and that isn't people who struggle with talking to others
so those who struggle have to find ways to make do
of course, if you want to be a great human being, you help them as best as you can
but you don't help them by telling them to stay home and do everything for them

Alam
World famous

Alam wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

MasileinDE wrote:
ohhh, to jump in on the trans thing:
when people are like trans woman can't be real women, because they aren't biologically female and being a real woman means to be able to have children and then I'm sitting here like: you do realise that there is more and more "real women" who struggle with having children, they go infertile earlier and earlier and no one understands why and it destroys LIFES that people can't have their own children
like, are infertile women fake women too?
it makes no sense and isn't just discriminating towards trans women (ultimately kinda against trans men too, just opposite argument), it also invalidates every person who struggles with fertility

fertility is not what makes you a woman though

What does?

Private
International star

wug wrote:

Gilmore wrote:

Snusmumrikken wrote:

Gilmore wrote:

shshshsh it's a juicy one

like fruit pieces have no business in juice

pspspfppf I haven't yet COMPLETELY ruined my chances on getting friends here so I won't say it

i have friends