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Riddle wrote:
AtlantaG1912 wrote:
Riddle wrote:
AtlantaG1912 wrote:
I never said it was good i just said that you could take the possibilty that he stopped killing because he started a family might be considered a sense of rehabiltation because the family might have changed his outlook and whatever caused him to start killing (tends to stem from childhood issues) was resolved.
Because somebody committed crimes in the past, does that mean they shouldn't be punished for it today if they were never caught before now?
WOW you really are Princess Sweethoney haha. I never said that for god sake just this week a 100 year old man in Germany was put on trial for his actions in concentration camps during world war 2 but between then and now the main lived a normal life and had a family he was never conficted of any other crimes so therefore you can say he was rehabilted
I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to say with these comments ha-ha.
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Riddle wrote:
AtlantaG1912 wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Because somebody committed crimes in the past, does that mean they shouldn't be punished for it today if they were never caught before now?
WOW you really are Princess Sweethoney haha. I never said that for god sake just this week a 100 year old man in Germany was put on trial for his actions in concentration camps during world war 2 but between then and now the main lived a normal life and had a family he was never conficted of any other crimes so therefore you can say he was rehabilted
I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to say with these comments ha-ha.
She's saying rehabilitation is possible. However, it doesn't mean that people should not stand a trial for the crimes they have committed earlier in their life and serve the time they get. 
Date: 09-10-2021 21:52
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AtlantaG1912 wrote:
Nesta wrote:
Riddle wrote:
AtlantaG1912 wrote:
WOW you really are Princess Sweethoney haha. I never said that for god sake just this week a 100 year old man in Germany was put on trial for his actions in concentration camps during world war 2 but between then and now the main lived a normal life and had a family he was never conficted of any other crimes so therefore you can say he was rehabilted
I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to say with these comments ha-ha.
She's saying rehabilitation is possible. However, it doesn't mean that people should not stand a trial for the crimes they have committed earlier in their life and serve the time they get. 
this ^^

thank you @Nesta  xx
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Riddle wrote:
Nesta wrote:
Riddle wrote:
AtlantaG1912 wrote:
WOW you really are Princess Sweethoney haha. I never said that for god sake just this week a 100 year old man in Germany was put on trial for his actions in concentration camps during world war 2 but between then and now the main lived a normal life and had a family he was never conficted of any other crimes so therefore you can say he was rehabilted
I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to say with these comments ha-ha.
She's saying rehabilitation is possible. However, it doesn't mean that people should not stand a trial for the crimes they have committed earlier in their life and serve the time they get.
Obviously I believe it's possible for a killer to stop killing, I mean how many killers kill throughout their entire life? But the question, do they deserve to life an honest life after taking the life of another?
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
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I'm still waiting for that study by the way. What studies has been done on serial killers rehabilitation that would prove your claim?
Prove what claim lmfao, I already said they won't be let out unless rehabilitated. For murderers, they will easily enough be let out, but as u can see if u google for 2 seconds more, reoffending rates in norway are incredibly low compared to other places, murders too for that matter but lol. We aim to make the best neighbor or whatever, and that is by helping people, not letting ppl out of prison traumatized
Because you are talking about very general studies that are done on ALL type of criminals. That would mean perhaps 1000 people who were studies were all thieves or put in jail for vandalism, I dont know. Could be anything.

If you want to do specific studies, you take a lot of these people and compare them to a different result.
 These type of studies done on serial killers do not exist.

If you don't have a study, just say so. Rehabilitation proven to work on petty cimes? Statistically proven true. Serial killers? no, since we do not put them in the same category if we want accurate results.
I never talked abt serial killers lol, cus we only have a couple of serial killers here at most, there is nothing to base a paper on. The TWO serial killers in norway since the 1800s, have not reoffended 
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Nesta wrote:
Riddle wrote:
I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to say with these comments ha-ha.
She's saying rehabilitation is possible. However, it doesn't mean that people should not stand a trial for the crimes they have committed earlier in their life and serve the time they get.
Obviously I believe it's possible for a killer to stop killing, I mean how many killers kill throughout their entire life? But the question, do they deserve to life an honest life after taking the life of another?
Yes, and its also cheaper for society to rehabilitate them and let them out, than to let them stay in prison for the rest of their lives 
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Tbh I wish you would say you want Levi to step on you again that was peak princess Sweethoney
Date: 09-10-2021 21:55
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Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Prove what claim lmfao, I already said they won't be let out unless rehabilitated. For murderers, they will easily enough be let out, but as u can see if u google for 2 seconds more, reoffending rates in norway are incredibly low compared to other places, murders too for that matter but lol. We aim to make the best neighbor or whatever, and that is by helping people, not letting ppl out of prison traumatized
Because you are talking about very general studies that are done on ALL type of criminals. That would mean perhaps 1000 people who were studies were all thieves or put in jail for vandalism, I dont know. Could be anything.

If you want to do specific studies, you take a lot of these people and compare them to a different result.
 These type of studies done on serial killers do not exist.

If you don't have a study, just say so. Rehabilitation proven to work on petty cimes? Statistically proven true. Serial killers? no, since we do not put them in the same category if we want accurate results.
I never talked abt serial killers lol, cus we only have a couple of serial killers here at most, there is nothing to base a paper on. The TWO serial killers in norway since the 1800s, have not reoffended
Welp, give me a study on just killers then.

"I mean, its you who suffers from this, not him. You will suffer from having even more ramped up killers coming
out of prison, and not rehabilitated killers"
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Date: 09-10-2021 21:56
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Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Nesta wrote:
She's saying rehabilitation is possible. However, it doesn't mean that people should not stand a trial for the crimes they have committed earlier in their life and serve the time they get.
Obviously I believe it's possible for a killer to stop killing, I mean how many killers kill throughout their entire life? But the question, do they deserve to life an honest life after taking the life of another?
Yes, and its also cheaper for society to rehabilitate them and let them out, than to let them stay in prison for the rest of their lives
What is the price of a bullet? Just kidding... it's true that being on death row especially is very expensive but considering all the weird things we waste tax money on, I don't mind.
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Date: 09-10-2021 21:58
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Riddle wrote:
xxpedrofangirlxx444 wrote:
Tbh I wish you would say you want Levi to step on you again that was peak princess Sweethoney
What is going on in this thread?
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Date: 09-10-2021 21:58
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amsterdam05 wrote:
You are amazing, don't feel bad.
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Riddle wrote:
amsterdam05 wrote:
You are amazing, don't feel bad.
That's nice. You are amazing
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ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
Because you are talking about very general studies that are done on ALL type of criminals. That would mean perhaps 1000 people who were studies were all thieves or put in jail for vandalism, I dont know. Could be anything.

If you want to do specific studies, you take a lot of these people and compare them to a different result.
 These type of studies done on serial killers do not exist.

If you don't have a study, just say so. Rehabilitation proven to work on petty cimes? Statistically proven true. Serial killers? no, since we do not put them in the same category if we want accurate results.
I never talked abt serial killers lol, cus we only have a couple of serial killers here at most, there is nothing to base a paper on. The TWO serial killers in norway since the 1800s, have not reoffended
Welp, give me a study on just killers then.

"I mean, its you who suffers from this, not him. You will suffer from having even more ramped up killers coming
out of prison, and not rehabilitated killers"
The only thing I could find was in norwegian and it said 1 of the ish 30 murders that happened in 2020 was from an already convicted murderer, but there seems to be no statistics on how many of murderers murder someone else after being let out, only general reoffending rates. But I assume its not very high cus I have heard abt a lot of convicted murderers living normal lives, but not rlly a lot of murderers murdering again, tho that is probably connected to the low murder rates already 
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Date: 09-10-2021 22:05
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AtlantaG1912 wrote:
Just pointing out that Son of Sam serial killer David Berkowitz was rehabilated in prison. Even though he wasn't released he does hold a degree from State University and completed other rehabiltation programmes that the prison does. He also has remorse for what he did.

Also Clem Grogan is the only person who has been released from prison after being convicted of murder in the killings committed by the Manson Family
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Riddle
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Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
Riddle wrote:
ouch wrote:
I never talked abt serial killers lol, cus we only have a couple of serial killers here at most, there is nothing to base a paper on. The TWO serial killers in norway since the 1800s, have not reoffended
Welp, give me a study on just killers then.

"I mean, its you who suffers from this, not him. You will suffer from having even more ramped up killers coming
out of prison, and not rehabilitated killers"
The only thing I could find was in norwegian and it said 1 of the ish 30 murders that happened in 2020 was from an already convicted murderer, but there seems to be no statistics on how many of murderers murder someone else after being let out, only general reoffending rates. But I assume its not very high cus I have heard abt a lot of convicted murderers living normal lives, but not rlly a lot of murderers murdering again, tho that is probably connected to the low murder rates already 
Ok. No studies outside of Norway either?
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