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Sweethoney
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Sweethoney wrote:

autism wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

autism wrote:
liberals are socially liberal and centrists claim to be in the centre both socially and economically

How can you be in the centre socially Dx

you can't

I guess im liberal then x3

Sweethoney
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Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:
Yes, but we have social capitalism or whatever, we have welfare benefits and other econocial benefits n stuff, and near free health care and school n all that jazz etc but we r capitalist tho. But I think mixed economy is honestly the best way to go always

sounds like socialism to me. what makes it capitalism i wonder? Othan that private owned companies n things like that :/

"By and large, we’re a capitalist country. If you’re looking for socialist countries, you should rather think of South American countries such as Venezuela or Bolivia, where the state has, or attempts to have, full control over the economy.There is no such attempt by the Norwegian government. Anyone can start their own company, and the overall economy is dictated by the market. As in most western countries, personal liberty is held to be of very high importance.However, there is also an important cultural principle in Norway that everyone should be taken care of. Solidarity with its people, rich or poor, is in many Norwegians’ minds an important task of the state. I will stress again, however, that this does not mean that we are a socialist country. It is simply part of our culture, and it bleeds into policy decisions taken by the state. For example, anyone can get generous loans to get take higher education, regardless of their parents’ background, and health care is affordable (though not free except in certain circumstances, which is a common misconception). Of course, such policies must be financed through relatively high taxes, mostly for the rich (which is deemed fair).None of this involves the government controlling or planning the economy. It is simply a way for the state to use the benefits of the capitalist economy to help people regardless of background, ensuring - or at least trying to - a decent standard of living for all.The closest we come to socialism is that the state partly or fully owns a few companies that are deemed especially important for the development of the Norwegian state. Examples are Statoil, the national oil company, NRK, the national broadcaster (similar to BBC), and NSB, the national rail.~95% of industries are ruled by capitalism, however. We just use the benefits of those markets in a slightly different way than other prominent Western nations, due to the large role solidarity plays in our culture."

tldr?

Sweethoney
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Sweethoney wrote:
i struggle reading a lot of text

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ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

autism wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:
Whats the difference between liberal and centrist then?

liberals are socially liberal and centrists claim to be in the centre both socially and economically

How can you be in the centre socially Dx

I assume its if u are not for a lot of individual politics (wtf is it in english), like ur not THAT progressive or out snd proud and loud abt like gay ppls rights etc, or womens rights, or u don't focus on that so much, but u also don't believe in conservatism (?) like abortion should be illegal, trans ppl pls cease to exist, etc etc

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ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:
i struggle reading a lot of text

That is the tdlr

Sweethoney
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Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:
i struggle reading a lot of text

That is the tdlr

is it anything other than privetly owned comapnies?

Sweethoney
Streetmusician

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

autism wrote:
liberals are socially liberal and centrists claim to be in the centre both socially and economically

How can you be in the centre socially Dx

I assume its if u are not for a lot of individual politics (wtf is it in english), like ur not THAT progressive or out snd proud and loud abt like gay ppls rights etc, or womens rights, or u don't focus on that so much, but u also don't believe in conservatism (?) like abortion should be illegal, trans ppl pls cease to exist, etc etc

i dont think there is a middle groud to that. your either supportive of human rights or not imo

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ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:
sounds like socialism to me. what makes it capitalism i wonder? Othan that private owned companies n things like that :/

"By and large, we’re a capitalist country. If you’re looking for socialist countries, you should rather think of South American countries such as Venezuela or Bolivia, where the state has, or attempts to have, full control over the economy.

There is no such attempt by the Norwegian government. Anyone can start their own company, and the overall economy is dictated by the market.
As in most western countries, personal liberty is held to be of very high importance.

However, there is also an important cultural principle in Norway that everyone should be taken care of. Solidarity with its people, rich or poor, is in many Norwegians’ minds an important task of the state. I will stress again, however, that this does not mean that we are a socialist country. It is simply part of our culture, and it bleeds into policy decisions taken by the state. For example, anyone can get generous loans to get take higher education, regardless of their parents’ background, and health care is affordable (though not free except in certain circumstances, which is a common misconception). Of course, such policies must be financed through relatively high taxes, mostly for the rich (which is deemed fair).

None of this involves the government controlling or planning the economy. It is simply a way for the state to use the benefits of the capitalist economy to help people regardless of background, ensuring - or at least trying to - a decent standard of living for all.

The closest we come to socialism is that the state partly or fully owns a few companies that are deemed especially important for the development of the Norwegian state. Examples are Statoil, the national oil company, NRK, the national broadcaster (similar to BBC), and NSB, the national rail.

~95% of industries are ruled by capitalism, however. We just use the benefits of those markets in a slightly different way than other prominent Western nations, due to the large role solidarity plays in our culture."

tldr?

is this better to read

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ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:
How can you be in the centre socially Dx

I assume its if u are not for a lot of individual politics (wtf is it in english), like ur not THAT progressive or out snd proud and loud abt like gay ppls rights etc, or womens rights, or u don't focus on that so much, but u also don't believe in conservatism (?) like abortion should be illegal, trans ppl pls cease to exist, etc etc

i dont think there is a middle groud to that. your either supportive of human rights or not imo

The difference is how much of a focus you have on that compared to other things. I think its more like, are u more talking abt ppl as a whole, or more abt individual ppl

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ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:
I assume its if u are not for a lot of individual politics (wtf is it in english), like ur not THAT progressive or out snd proud and loud abt like gay ppls rights etc, or womens rights, or u don't focus on that so much, but u also don't believe in conservatism (?) like abortion should be illegal, trans ppl pls cease to exist, etc etc

i dont think there is a middle groud to that. your either supportive of human rights or not imo

The difference is how much of a focus you have on that compared to other things. I think its more like, are u more talking abt ppl as a whole, or more abt individual ppl

Socialist parties usually focus a lot on individual ppl, one of the reasons my grandpa is in the norwegian communist party now lol cus he don't care abt that

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Princess sweetie honey can you please solve the middle east for me? Would be great! Thanks~

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autism wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:
How can you be in the centre socially Dx

I assume its if u are not for a lot of individual politics (wtf is it in english), like ur not THAT progressive or out snd proud and loud abt like gay ppls rights etc, or womens rights, or u don't focus on that so much, but u also don't believe in conservatism (?) like abortion should be illegal, trans ppl pls cease to exist, etc etc

i dont think there is a middle groud to that. your either supportive of human rights or not imo

yes, very much correct.

Sweethoney
Streetmusician

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:

Sweethoney wrote:

ouch wrote:
"By and large, we’re a capitalist country. If you’re looking for socialist countries, you should rather think of South American countries such as Venezuela or Bolivia, where the state has, or attempts to have, full control over the economy.

There is no such attempt by the Norwegian government. Anyone can start their own company, and the overall economy is dictated by the market.
As in most western countries, personal liberty is held to be of very high importance.

However, there is also an important cultural principle in Norway that everyone should be taken care of. Solidarity with its people, rich or poor, is in many Norwegians’ minds an important task of the state. I will stress again, however, that this does not mean that we are a socialist country. It is simply part of our culture, and it bleeds into policy decisions taken by the state. For example, anyone can get generous loans to get take higher education, regardless of their parents’ background, and health care is affordable (though not free except in certain circumstances, which is a common misconception). Of course, such policies must be financed through relatively high taxes, mostly for the rich (which is deemed fair).

None of this involves the government controlling or planning the economy. It is simply a way for the state to use the benefits of the capitalist economy to help people regardless of background, ensuring - or at least trying to - a decent standard of living for all.

The closest we come to socialism is that the state partly or fully owns a few companies that are deemed especially important for the development of the Norwegian state. Examples are Statoil, the national oil company, NRK, the national broadcaster (similar to BBC), and NSB, the national rail.

~95% of industries are ruled by capitalism, however. We just use the benefits of those markets in a slightly different way than other prominent Western nations, due to the large role solidarity plays in our culture."

tldr?

is this better to read

so its what i said about privetly owned companies and government resticted control.. but socialism to me is still = welfare, freeschool heleath care etc. xD so i see most eurpean contries as socialist

Sweethoney
Streetmusician

Sweethoney wrote:

Alam wrote:
Princess sweetie honey can you please solve the middle east for me? Would be great! Thanks~

Whats the issue specifically?

Lean
Streetmusician

lean wrote:
in what world are conservative views better economically for everyone, over socialist and more left parties? like that genuinely does not make any sense to me.