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Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
ur not mixed jewish ur literally jewish what
no theres

theres ethnic jewish and theres religion jewish. it's a religion AND/or it's an ethnic group.  you can be jewish without being religiously jewish and if you have one jewish parent you can be half jewish.
it's very problematic to not have two separate terms for this because in my head jewish refers to a person who is following judaism to some degree, and not an ethnic group of people 
well its the same with like some nationalitites and their ethnic group you know. really culture is what ties ethnic groups together anyway not genetics.
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wug wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
You can be mixed Jewish? I never said you couldn't, look at celebrities like Drake, he's half Jewish.
This sounds very much like the thing Trevor Noah talked about yes. 
I have no idea what you're talking about.
He talked about being mix race 
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wug wrote:
Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Claire wrote:
no theres

theres ethnic jewish and theres religion jewish. it's a religion AND/or it's an ethnic group.  you can be jewish without being religiously jewish and if you have one jewish parent you can be half jewish.
it's very problematic to not have two separate terms for this because in my head jewish refers to a person who is following judaism to some degree, and not an ethnic group of people 
well its the same with like some nationalitites and their ethnic group you know. really culture is what ties ethnic groups together anyway not genetics.
it's all confusing to me so many labels so many things 
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Persona wrote:
@Alam I have a question. You know the traditional belief that only those with a Jewish mother can be Jewish (so if your dad is Jewish, but your Mum is not, you can't be Jewish) - do Jewish people still believe that? Or not? (btw I hope this is a thing and I didn't make it up lol)
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Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
ur not mixed jewish ur literally jewish what
no theres

theres ethnic jewish and theres religion jewish. it's a religion AND/or it's an ethnic group.  you can be jewish without being religiously jewish and if you have one jewish parent you can be half jewish.
it's very problematic to not have two separate terms for this because in my head jewish refers to a person who is following judaism to some degree, and not an ethnic group of people 
Well, it is what it is. I, for instance, am an agnostic atheist but I'm ethnically and culturally Jewish.
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Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
ur not mixed jewish ur literally jewish what
You're mixed Jewish ethnically, you're Jewish religiously.
How long? 
I don't know, how long is someone considered mixed black?
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Pavlov wrote:
Claire wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Alam wrote:
You can be mixed Jewish? I never said you couldn't, look at celebrities like Drake, he's half Jewish.
ur not mixed jewish ur literally jewish what
no theres

theres ethnic jewish and theres religion jewish. it's a religion AND/or it's an ethnic group.  you can be jewish without being religiously jewish and if you have one jewish parent you can be half jewish.
but u cant be half an enthicity with that logic that would make them a quarter quarter quarter quarter jew or extremely inbred
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Persona wrote:
Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Claire wrote:
no theres

theres ethnic jewish and theres religion jewish. it's a religion AND/or it's an ethnic group.  you can be jewish without being religiously jewish and if you have one jewish parent you can be half jewish.
it's very problematic to not have two separate terms for this because in my head jewish refers to a person who is following judaism to some degree, and not an ethnic group of people 
well its the same with like some nationalitites and their ethnic group you know. really culture is what ties ethnic groups together anyway not genetics.
^
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wug wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
You're mixed Jewish ethnically, you're Jewish religiously.
How long? 
I don't know, how long is someone considered mixed black?
I don't know, I don't really think about these things but it obviously means a lot to people so yeah. There has to be someone who has an opinion here 
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Alam
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Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
This sounds very much like the thing Trevor Noah talked about yes. 
I have no idea what you're talking about.
He talked about being mix race 
I don't know what you're referring to though, I don't like Trevor Noah.
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Date: 24-09-2020 20:42
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Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
This sounds very much like the thing Trevor Noah talked about yes. 
I have no idea what you're talking about.
He talked about being mix race 
his perspective on race is from a very speccific viewpoint because he grew up in apartheid south africa.  it's very different from the way american race conversations are (which dominates race conversation worldwide). like mixed is its own group in south africa. there he isnt black or white hes mixed. but in america we just see him as black and not as mixed. i think his perspective is really important and everyone should read his book Born A Crime. 
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wug wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about.
He talked about being mix race 
I don't know what you're referring to though, I don't like Trevor Noah.
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Date: 24-09-2020 20:43
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Claire wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about.
He talked about being mix race 
I don't know what you're referring to though, I don't like Trevor Noah.
bad taste
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Date: 24-09-2020 20:43
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wug wrote:
Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Alam wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about.
He talked about being mix race 
his perspective on race is from a very speccific viewpoint because he grew up in apartheid south africa.  it's very different from the way american race conversations are (which dominates race conversation worldwide). like mixed is its own group in south africa. there he isnt black or white hes mixed. but in america we just see him as black and not as mixed. i think his perspective is really important and everyone should read his book Born A Crime. 
I generally try to avoid having an American viewpoint on things 
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Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Claire wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
He talked about being mix race 
his perspective on race is from a very speccific viewpoint because he grew up in apartheid south africa.  it's very different from the way american race conversations are (which dominates race conversation worldwide). like mixed is its own group in south africa. there he isnt black or white hes mixed. but in america we just see him as black and not as mixed. i think his perspective is really important and everyone should read his book Born A Crime. 
I generally try to avoid having an American viewpoint on things 
we know
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