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Delusion1111111 wrote:
ive also recently been thinking a lot abt whether or not bdsm n like violent tendencies in thee bedroom can ever b ok bcuz that is something that i have sooooooo many confusing emotions surrounding 😭 slightly off topic but also kind of links in w porn bcuz so much of it is so violent specifically towards women
I think so only cus I like being hit
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acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
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it's just an excuse for men to take advantage and abuse women who are already victimized by earlier abuse or trauma. 
"i need to hit you to get off" vs. "i need you to hit me to get off" = abuse. 
jesus god no fuck it isnt
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
No lol
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I have such a strong opinion on this but it’s fueled by a negative connotation that is personal. My boyfriend views it in a personal positive light and I, not so much. 

To be fair i was raised differently than him so I feel like the answer isn’t really black and white. I may view it as corrupt and disgusting but he views it as an “educator” growing up. He hasn’t watched it since we’ve been together but he of course used it a lot in his younger years when he was lonely. It was also forced down his throat by relatives because he was a male and his father and uncles were disgusting and gifted porno’s to him “as a joke” so he was around it all the time.

I, however, hate it [porn] all (I do not hate sex work nor the women in porn). I also grew up with a mother who warned me that all men are trash and pigs, including my dad (I love my dad, he is not trash my mom is). I was never allowed a lock on my door because of my mom and I could never wear anything other than a tshirt and shorts to bed so nudity was not the normal for me. Nudity and locks on doors were a normal for my boyfriend because his mom treated him normally and I never got that.  I grew up with a fear of nudity and still to this day somewhat still have it. It’s like showing a person with trypophobia holes, they’re uncomfortable and squeamish. The only nudity or “porn” I “like” is being intimate with my current partner in person. I hate looking at other people nude and it’s not even me being a prude, I was just raised this way and now that I’ve seen sex work in a positive light due to social media my views have let up on that but I still choose not to see anyone nude other than me and my partner. 

I do not like porn also because of a lot of technicalities like not knowing the extent of consent or the treatment of men or women behind the camera. I also hate that it pushes stereotypes and negative mindsets on young males like my boyfriend. It causes harm on impressionable young minds and now I have to re-teach him things 10 years later. He says it’s an “educator” but I respectfully call bullshit when it harms the brain more than does it good. I’ll never be able to tell him how bad I think it is because he just doesn’t see it that way just because “it was the only thing there for him at a dark place in his life” like, this is porn not your childhood dog. 

Anyway, I do not like porn never have,  never will. 
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ouch wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
jesus god no fuck it isnt
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
No lol
so wanting someone to beat the shit outta you in bed while being degraded in every possible way is not abuse??? 
pornofication of culture truly have ruined ppl.
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acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
it's just an excuse for men to take advantage and abuse women who are already victimized by earlier abuse or trauma. 
"i need to hit you to get off" vs. "i need you to hit me to get off" = abuse. 
jesus god no fuck it isnt
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
way to remove the autonomy of literally every woman with one sentence. nothing is more feminist than "woman isnt capable of deciding for themselves what they do and do not like"
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MasileinDE wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

I wasn't trying to say that, I just don't like the conversation being so exclusively about the movies without saying so, because even though you might be educated on the existence of porn outside of movies, not everyone is
and though every single point you raised so far is a valid point against the porn movie industry, I don't think it applies on a broad term discussion about all kinds of pornography as a sole argument
i never said that, idk where the fuck u getting at anyways. 

I'm getting at the fact that you never talked about "porn" as in "I'm referencing porn movies", but you go on about porn is porn and as it applies to porn movies, it applies to all kind of porn" (not in those words, but by not setting your parameters
sorry, this is speech analysis, I can't know what you're thinking, so I can't react to what you wanted to say and how wanted it to be taken as
very sorry this apparently makes you mad
i just thought that was  obvious, since no else have made the distinction. 
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I mean if it's made well it is ok
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lamb wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
jesus god no fuck it isnt
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
way to remove the autonomy of literally every woman with one sentence. nothing is more feminist than "woman isnt capable of deciding for themselves what they do and do not like"
>thinking women want to be abused 
>"you're anti-feminist"
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acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
way to remove the autonomy of literally every woman with one sentence. nothing is more feminist than "woman isnt capable of deciding for themselves what they do and do not like"
>thinking women want to be abused 
>you're anti-feminist
el o el
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lamb wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
jesus god no fuck it isnt
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
way to remove the autonomy of literally every woman with one sentence. nothing is more feminist than "woman isnt capable of deciding for themselves what they do and do not like"
We hav been conditioned
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ouch wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
ive also recently been thinking a lot abt whether or not bdsm n like violent tendencies in thee bedroom can ever b ok bcuz that is something that i have sooooooo many confusing emotions surrounding 😭 slightly off topic but also kind of links in w porn bcuz so much of it is so violent specifically towards women
I think so only cus I like being hit
so do i but i dont think its ok hence me = having mental breakdown regularly looooool #oversharing bigtime on vp time
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acidreflux wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
i never said that, idk where the fuck u getting at anyways. 

I'm getting at the fact that you never talked about "porn" as in "I'm referencing porn movies", but you go on about porn is porn and as it applies to porn movies, it applies to all kind of porn" (not in those words, but by not setting your parameters
sorry, this is speech analysis, I can't know what you're thinking, so I can't react to what you wanted to say and how wanted it to be taken as
very sorry this apparently makes you mad
i just thought that was  obvious, since no else have made the distinction. 

I did on page 1 and 3
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acidreflux wrote:
lamb wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
hmm yes it's ... i know y'all have been deluded into thinking it isn't, but it's legit abuse.
way to remove the autonomy of literally every woman with one sentence. nothing is more feminist than "woman isnt capable of deciding for themselves what they do and do not like"
>thinking women want to be abused 
>you're anti-feminist
martial arts isnt abuse because the people involve consent to it. bdsm isnt abuse bc the people involved have consented to it. mindblowing stuff
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No but seriously how is it abuse if I like smth n the dude im with isnt rlly even ok w it cus he doesn't wanna hurt me or whatever but I want him to hurt me, is that still him just abusing me cus I have been conditioned by society or porn to like it or whatever so men can hit me 
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