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Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
do japan, china and korea even care that much about the western beauty ideals, theyre closed off countries with their own booming industries, they consume their own media and products, i just think they view things from the west as exotic and different, personally i dont think i would travel to those countries just cause i feel like id be too ugly hahahah
their beauty ideals are frankly terrifying to me and i dont fulfill any of them, except i guess my skin that hasnt seen the sun in 100 years
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:00
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
bones wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
where i live people want to look as dark as possible lol i dont see the logic, if asians actually was that desperate to look white japanese elders wouldnt be so critical of japanese people coloring their hair anything but black
by saying japanese people paint their skin white because they want to look like white people youre erasing their own culture wink
where have you read that asians whitening their skin or getting lid or nose surgery is purely asian culture? source?
https://www.theoccidentalnews.com/opinions/2019/10/08/asian-beauty-standards-are-more-than-white-skin-deep/2898785
I was astonished, confused and even a little angry on hearing the conflation of Asian beauty standards with a simple aspiration to whiteness. I saw this while watching a video from VICE; the interviewer seems to refuse to listen to her informant and instead imposes her own reasoning on why Koreans get plastic surgery. In fact, to simplify such ideas into “they’re all trying to look white” is belittling and dismissive, not to mention incredibly arrogant. It lacks the nuance that we should apply when thinking about complex ideas such as beauty standards and their origins.

As one of the oldest civilizations in the world, China had beauty standards before Europeans began colonizing and spreading (or rather, imposing) their influence upon whoever they encountered. In fact, the favoritism for lighter skin has existed since as early as the Han Dynasty (206 B.C.–220 A.D.) — it was a representation of status, as those who came from wealth would not have to work laboriously in the sun. This beauty standard exists across many Asian cultures, but it has also existed throughout history in many other parts of the world for similar reasons of class-signaling.
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:28 | Times changed: 1
Alam
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Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
ahh i see well thats fair
It's kind of ridiculous because you can't really boycott a whole country and also their people aren't really at fault for their countries' pasts but I wouldn't personally feel comfortable going there as a regular tourist. Maybe- maybe to Poland, there's this thing in Israel where we go on an expedition to Poland and learn about the holocaust and go to concentration camps and shit, if I do that I'll bring my own damn food, I'm not paying those fuckers a penny, no offence.
thats a bit extreme 
Those fuckers I'm referring to killed my ancestors, is it really extreme not to want to visit their country?
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:35
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Koolaid wrote:
the way people romanticise japan and are racist toward literally every other asian country... lol
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:36
Alam
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Alam wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
the way people romanticise japan and are racist toward literally every other asian country... lol
The romanticisation of Japan and Korea is so toxic, can we talk about how miserable the people there are? Their suicide rates are FUCKED.
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:38
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Koolaid wrote:
Alam wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
the way people romanticise japan and are racist toward literally every other asian country... lol
The romanticisation of Japan and Korea is so toxic, can we talk about how miserable the people there are? Their suicide rates are FUCKED.
yes but kawaii anime and oppas 😍😍😍
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:39
Snailman
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snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
It's kind of ridiculous because you can't really boycott a whole country and also their people aren't really at fault for their countries' pasts but I wouldn't personally feel comfortable going there as a regular tourist. Maybe- maybe to Poland, there's this thing in Israel where we go on an expedition to Poland and learn about the holocaust and go to concentration camps and shit, if I do that I'll bring my own damn food, I'm not paying those fuckers a penny, no offence.
thats a bit extreme 
Those fuckers I'm referring to killed my ancestors, is it really extreme not to want to visit their country?
theres  jewish restaurants in poland and in germany
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:50 | Times changed: 1
Alam
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Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
thats a bit extreme 
Those fuckers I'm referring to killed my ancestors, is it really extreme not to want to visit their country?
theres  jewish restaurants in poland and as well as in germany
I know? That's not the point. My tourism would be contributing to their economy and I don't want that. I know it's petty but I think it's valid.
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:51
Snailman
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snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
Those fuckers I'm referring to killed my ancestors, is it really extreme not to want to visit their country?
theres  jewish restaurants in poland and as well as in germany
I know? That's not the point. My tourism would be contributing to their economy and I don't want that. I know it's petty but I think it's valid.
ok   wig
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:52
Alam
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Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
theres  jewish restaurants in poland and as well as in germany
I know? That's not the point. My tourism would be contributing to their economy and I don't want that. I know it's petty but I think it's valid.
ok   wig
Okay, what does that mean? I think I'm a fake gay lol, I never understood what that means.
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:54
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Medusa wrote:
oh that explains the trend where they all have to use a lighter foundation to make themselves whiter than white
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:58
Nox
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Nox wrote:
Alam wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
the way people romanticise japan and are racist toward literally every other asian country... lol
The romanticisation of Japan and Korea is so toxic, can we talk about how miserable the people there are? Their suicide rates are FUCKED.
exactly!!!! i just don't get how people (weeaboos and koreaboos) excuse EVRYTHING japanese/korean people do 
they're fucking racist and it's not all kawaii and stuff 
it pisses me off so much since i'm asian myself and i hate how weebs put japan/korea on a pedestal and look down on other asians country 

alsoooo they only adore asians who are PALE 
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:59
Snailman
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snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
snailman wrote:
Alam wrote:
I know? That's not the point. My tourism would be contributing to their economy and I don't want that. I know it's petty but I think it's valid.
ok   wig
Okay, what does that mean? I think I'm a fake gay lol, I never understood what that means.
when ur like  shocked but nowadays its used less seriously 

i jsut mean   i do think its petty but u know its petty so   im just  ok with it i guess
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Date: 04-07-2020 17:59
Nox
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Nox wrote:
Alam wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Alam wrote:
Yup. That's why I refuse to ever go to Japan, alongside Poland, Germany, and Turkey, though I'm not incredibly welcome there.
what do you mean
Well, I don't want to boost the economy of any of those countries with my tourism, plus I wouldn't feel comfortable visiting Turkey and Japan who have not formally recognised their war crimes and genocides, or Poland and Germany because of family history.
it totally makes sense that you'd avoid germany (and the other countries) yet germany does acknowledge their past and has tried to learn from it. i cant deny that we're still having a BIG nazi problem tho it's crazy 
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Date: 04-07-2020 18:01
Alam
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Alam wrote:
Nox wrote:
Alam wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
what do you mean
Well, I don't want to boost the economy of any of those countries with my tourism, plus I wouldn't feel comfortable visiting Turkey and Japan who have not formally recognised their war crimes and genocides, or Poland and Germany because of family history.
it totally makes sense that you'd avoid germany (and the other countries) yet germany does acknowledge their past and has tried to learn from it. i cant deny that we're still having a BIG nazi problem tho it's crazy 
I know, I avoid Germany for personal reasons, they kind of wiped out my granddads entire family soooo
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Date: 04-07-2020 18:14
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