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Princess of Pop

Arthema wrote:
The president of Ukraine, Zelensky, giving a speech to the russian people

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World Famous

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:
Hi I am just stopping by to remind that information war is very much real and likely only getting worse within the next days. So be careful and sceptical about the articles/comments/whatever you read about this situation. VP might get its portion of russian trolls as well as every other site there is. The goal is to divide people, create disagreements and conflicts as well as provoke and disinform people. It might not be related to the war itself, and for example parts of the Convoy mayhem and anti vaxx shit can be tracked to russia too.

Be careful and doubtful

take care everyone

www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-02-17/russia-ukraine-disinformation-campaign
thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/02/21/Convoy-Revved-Foreign-Actors-Spreading-Lies/
www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-covid-disinformation-campaigns/31590996.html

Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Alam
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Alam wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:
Hi I am just stopping by to remind that information war is very much real and likely only getting worse within the next days. So be careful and sceptical about the articles/comments/whatever you read about this situation. VP might get its portion of russian trolls as well as every other site there is. The goal is to divide people, create disagreements and conflicts as well as provoke and disinform people. It might not be related to the war itself, and for example parts of the Convoy mayhem and anti vaxx shit can be tracked to russia too.

Be careful and doubtful

take care everyone

www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-02-17/russia-ukraine-disinformation-campaign
thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/02/21/Convoy-Revved-Foreign-Actors-Spreading-Lies/
www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-covid-disinformation-campaigns/31590996.html

Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

What generalisation?

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International Star

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:
Hi I am just stopping by to remind that information war is very much real and likely only getting worse within the next days. So be careful and sceptical about the articles/comments/whatever you read about this situation. VP might get its portion of russian trolls as well as every other site there is. The goal is to divide people, create disagreements and conflicts as well as provoke and disinform people. It might not be related to the war itself, and for example parts of the Convoy mayhem and anti vaxx shit can be tracked to russia too.

Be careful and doubtful

take care everyone

www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-02-17/russia-ukraine-disinformation-campaign
thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/02/21/Convoy-Revved-Foreign-Actors-Spreading-Lies/
www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-covid-disinformation-campaigns/31590996.html

Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

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Princess of Pop

Arthema wrote:

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:
Hi I am just stopping by to remind that information war is very much real and likely only getting worse within the next days. So be careful and sceptical about the articles/comments/whatever you read about this situation. VP might get its portion of russian trolls as well as every other site there is. The goal is to divide people, create disagreements and conflicts as well as provoke and disinform people. It might not be related to the war itself, and for example parts of the Convoy mayhem and anti vaxx shit can be tracked to russia too.

Be careful and doubtful

take care everyone

www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-02-17/russia-ukraine-disinformation-campaign
thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/02/21/Convoy-Revved-Foreign-Actors-Spreading-Lies/
www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-covid-disinformation-campaigns/31590996.html

Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

Some people really don't know what they're talking about, I guess the fact you wrote that some things can be traced back to Russia and that there are a lot of Russian trolls,
but I can tell you,
as a Russian myself, there was nothing bad in anything you've stated, and you're very right,
people SHOULD be aware of misinformation and that not everything we might see is a fact

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World Famous

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:
Hi I am just stopping by to remind that information war is very much real and likely only getting worse within the next days. So be careful and sceptical about the articles/comments/whatever you read about this situation. VP might get its portion of russian trolls as well as every other site there is. The goal is to divide people, create disagreements and conflicts as well as provoke and disinform people. It might not be related to the war itself, and for example parts of the Convoy mayhem and anti vaxx shit can be tracked to russia too.

Be careful and doubtful

take care everyone

www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-02-17/russia-ukraine-disinformation-campaign
thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/02/21/Convoy-Revved-Foreign-Actors-Spreading-Lies/
www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-covid-disinformation-campaigns/31590996.html

Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

You brought back the things 2 years ago, once the pandemic started.
China and the pandemic has nothing to do with this - other than the misinformation.
On top of this China is on the neutral territory this time !
The topic was about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine - why try making it about everything in the past?

There's several topics that you should just let be in order to not create a total chaos out of it.
You mentioned "russian trolls" you could've just said without gener. anything "trolls"

There's misinformation all around us, everyone knows that.
Even Russians are against whats happening, even Ukraine's president is trying to share video through social media to get himself heard.

You really thing now is the best time to bring back up stuff thats happened?

Alam
World Famous

Alam wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:
Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

You brought back the things 2 years ago, once the pandemic started.
China and the pandemic has nothing to do with this - other than the misinformation.
On top of this China is on the neutral territory this time !
The topic was about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine - why try making it about everything in the past?

There's several topics that you should just let be in order to not create a total chaos out of it.
You mentioned "russian trolls" you could've just said without gener. anything "trolls"

There's misinformation all around us, everyone knows that.
Even Russians are against whats happening, even Ukraine's president is trying to share video through social media to get himself heard.

You really thing now is the best time to bring back up stuff thats happened?

I don't think you understood what Raquelle said

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Princess of Pop

Arthema wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:
Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

You brought back the things 2 years ago, once the pandemic started.
China and the pandemic has nothing to do with this - other than the misinformation.
On top of this China is on the neutral territory this time !
The topic was about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine - why try making it about everything in the past?

There's several topics that you should just let be in order to not create a total chaos out of it.
You mentioned "russian trolls" you could've just said without gener. anything "trolls"

There's misinformation all around us, everyone knows that.
Even Russians are against whats happening, even Ukraine's president is trying to share video through social media to get himself heard.

You really thing now is the best time to bring back up stuff thats happened?

you REALLY did not get the point did ya?
damn

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World Famous

Hazelnut wrote:

Alam wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:
Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

You brought back the things 2 years ago, once the pandemic started.
China and the pandemic has nothing to do with this - other than the misinformation.
On top of this China is on the neutral territory this time !
The topic was about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine - why try making it about everything in the past?

There's several topics that you should just let be in order to not create a total chaos out of it.
You mentioned "russian trolls" you could've just said without gener. anything "trolls"

There's misinformation all around us, everyone knows that.
Even Russians are against whats happening, even Ukraine's president is trying to share video through social media to get himself heard.

You really thing now is the best time to bring back up stuff thats happened?

I don't think you understood what Raquelle said

theyr not getting their point through by demonizing Russia and China or sharing news about stuff thats happened years ago.
There's a difference between staying on topic and being appropiate rather than downright blaming and sharing own views.

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International Star

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Raquelle wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:
Even if you have a point, the generalization and link was UNCALLED for and so so low.

Sorry, I don't quite get that, what do you mean? What have I said that is low?

The links are there to simply provide some sort of references to what I claimed. I do not mean to generalize anything other than that people in general should be even more aware of the information that they consume in times like these. And it is a proven fact that russia sure knows how to generate trolls and spread misinformation.

You brought back the things 2 years ago, once the pandemic started.
China and the pandemic has nothing to do with this - other than the misinformation.
On top of this China is on the neutral territory this time !
The topic was about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine - why try making it about everything in the past?

There's several topics that you should just let be in order to not create a total chaos out of it.
You mentioned "russian trolls" you could've just said without gener. anything "trolls"

There's misinformation all around us, everyone knows that.
Even Russians are against whats happening, even Ukraine's president is trying to share video through social media to get himself heard.

You really thing now is the best time to bring back up stuff thats happened?

Russian, yes Russian, trolls and misinformation are not something one can thoroughly understand without any context or knowledge from the past. And two years is not exactly a long time ago. And the information warfare is one of russia's strongest and widely used tactic, not something that every country uses in that scale. This is an excellent time to learn from the past in order to tackle and not fall for these tactics. I am not here to create chaos.

Russians are indeed against what's happening, I know that, I have Russian family and friends as well. I never claimed otherwise. A regular Russia citizen has done nothing wrong and no one here is blaming any of them. I am not saying all Russians online are trolls - I am saying that there are russian trolls online. That they exist.

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Princess of Pop

Arthema wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:

Alam wrote:

Hazelnut wrote:
You brought back the things 2 years ago, once the pandemic started.
China and the pandemic has nothing to do with this - other than the misinformation.
On top of this China is on the neutral territory this time !
The topic was about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine - why try making it about everything in the past?

There's several topics that you should just let be in order to not create a total chaos out of it.
You mentioned "russian trolls" you could've just said without gener. anything "trolls"

There's misinformation all around us, everyone knows that.
Even Russians are against whats happening, even Ukraine's president is trying to share video through social media to get himself heard.

You really thing now is the best time to bring back up stuff thats happened?

I don't think you understood what Raquelle said

theyr not getting their point through by demonizing Russia and China or sharing news about stuff thats happened years ago.
There's a difference between staying on topic and being appropiate rather than downright blaming and sharing own views.

"years ago"
you're talking about it as if it happened decades ago, but it's still fresh and present and exists??
there's a difference between blaming and stating the facts, and what Raquelle shared? facts.
this is a tactic that we now know is being used against people, sadly that is being used mostly by those 2 groups, it's just like statistics, saying that 1 group is more prone to something, or does something more than group 2, or the rest.

unless you're Russian yourself, I see no reason as to why you feel this need to protect em? yeah, there are Russian trolls, actually WAAAY too many
hell, you seen the gaming scene? Russians fucking RUIN so many games like lmao
that's just 1 example but yeah, your understanding of this is either wrong or well... idk what complex you have but you do you

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Princess of Pop

Arthema wrote:

acidreflux wrote:

Of COURSE they would do that
smh
I see too much shit from there and people going apeshit over this situation

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Abby wrote:

acidreflux wrote:

Of COURSE they would do that
smh
I see too much shit from there and people going apeshit over this situation

still
i have seen some absolute horrendous shit from british and american ppl across various platforms ... and some of these things weren't trolls but literal morons.
i wish i had geo blocking

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Princess of Pop

Arthema wrote:

acidreflux wrote:

Abby wrote:

acidreflux wrote:

Of COURSE they would do that
smh
I see too much shit from there and people going apeshit over this situation

still
i have seen some absolute horrendous shit from british and american ppl across various platforms ... and some of these things weren't trolls but literal morons.
i wish i had geo blocking

that's the even WORSE thing hnnnggg
people that are actually
actually serious
and don't realize and don't know what the fuck is going on, some people just don't have the brain capacity for that, and sadly we don't have that type of blocking lmao that ... that would be helpful at times yes