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kalypso wrote:
Six wrote:
also i dont think anyone under 18 should take hormones but that's a personal opinion
why not? it just stops the puberty (if they do it before puberty ofc), if they stop on it, won't they just like hit puberty "later"
i don't know if it just stops puberty but i think that it's an adult choice to make for your body and your brain doesn't finish developing until like 22 and i just think you should wait
and ive known a lot of people who think in their teens they are trans but then decide they aren't, or they just want to identify as they/them but don't want to change their body.
hormones are insane
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kalypso wrote:
Six wrote:
also i dont think anyone under 18 should take hormones but that's a personal opinion
why not? it just stops the puberty (if they do it before puberty ofc), if they stop on it, won't they just like hit puberty "later"
Hormone blockers u mean
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Six wrote:
genuine question tho
please enlighten me

nonbinary is just they/them right
like no sexual change
Depends
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ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
If u think love is love like that, I wouldn't say ur straight. Cus if u r attracted to a trans male presenting fully as male, and u r a man, n su say ur straight, thats like saying the dude is a woman almost lol, thats a bit of a stretch but still
im specifically talking about if u are in a relationship where the person was cis when dating and then becomes trans
I know, thats what im talking abt. Ur not straight if u usually like men w a dick n nthen suddenly like a vagina, like ?? 
that's not what i am saying, there is definitely situations where someone is with a person that was cis when they both fell in love and then the person came out + (mby) transitioned, but bc the person loves the person unconditioned they still stay with they, but that doesn't mean they would still date their same gender afterwards if they were to break up. 
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ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
Six wrote:
also i dont think anyone under 18 should take hormones but that's a personal opinion
why not? it just stops the puberty (if they do it before puberty ofc), if they stop on it, won't they just like hit puberty "later"
Hormone blockers u mean
wait yeah, but if u also get ur desired gender's hormones and then stop, then u won't produce it as much anymore, won't ur body start to going back to it's birth sex? 
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kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
im specifically talking about if u are in a relationship where the person was cis when dating and then becomes trans
I know, thats what im talking abt. Ur not straight if u usually like men w a dick n nthen suddenly like a vagina, like ?? 
that's not what i am saying, there is definitely situations where someone is with a person that was cis when they both fell in love and then the person came out + (mby) transitioned, but bc the person loves the person unconditioned they still stay with they, but that doesn't mean they would still date their same gender afterwards if they were to break up. 
I think if a person completely disregards the body and genitalia  of someone and only loves the inside, they r not straight, not sexually at least
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ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
I know, thats what im talking abt. Ur not straight if u usually like men w a dick n nthen suddenly like a vagina, like ?? 
that's not what i am saying, there is definitely situations where someone is with a person that was cis when they both fell in love and then the person came out + (mby) transitioned, but bc the person loves the person unconditioned they still stay with they, but that doesn't mean they would still date their same gender afterwards if they were to break up. 
I think if a person completely disregards the body and genitalia  of someone and only loves the inside, they r not straight, not sexually at least
that can maybe also be true 
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kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
why not? it just stops the puberty (if they do it before puberty ofc), if they stop on it, won't they just like hit puberty "later"
Hormone blockers u mean
wait yeah, but if u also get ur desired gender's hormones and then stop, then u won't produce it as much anymore, won't ur body start to going back to it's birth sex? 
No not rlly, ur voice n shit will still b the same at least
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ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
Hormone blockers u mean
wait yeah, but if u also get ur desired gender's hormones and then stop, then u won't produce it as much anymore, won't ur body start to going back to it's birth sex? 
No not rlly, ur voice n shit will still b the same at least
what if u start taking hormones for ur birth sex then, will it then go back
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kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
that's not what i am saying, there is definitely situations where someone is with a person that was cis when they both fell in love and then the person came out + (mby) transitioned, but bc the person loves the person unconditioned they still stay with they, but that doesn't mean they would still date their same gender afterwards if they were to break up. 
I think if a person completely disregards the body and genitalia  of someone and only loves the inside, they r not straight, not sexually at least
that can maybe also be true 
I dont know it's probably bc of my pan mindset this 
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kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
wait yeah, but if u also get ur desired gender's hormones and then stop, then u won't produce it as much anymore, won't ur body start to going back to it's birth sex? 
No not rlly, ur voice n shit will still b the same at least
what if u start taking hormones for ur birth sex then, will it then go back
Don't think so, which is why detransitioners often struggle cus they are still stuck in a body they don't want or doesn't fit them 
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kalypso wrote:
kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think if a person completely disregards the body and genitalia  of someone and only loves the inside, they r not straight, not sexually at least
that can maybe also be true 
I dont know it's probably bc of my pan mindset this 
Yeah, I wouldn't like someone if they suddenly changed their genitals/whole appearance like idk, its just not for me 
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ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
No not rlly, ur voice n shit will still b the same at least
what if u start taking hormones for ur birth sex then, will it then go back
Don't think so, which is why detransitioners often struggle cus they are still stuck in a body they don't want or doesn't fit them 
okay, then i see the problem, but i think yes to hormone blockers before 18 then 
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ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
kalypso wrote:
that can maybe also be true 
I dont know it's probably bc of my pan mindset this 
Yeah, I wouldn't like someone if they suddenly changed their genitals/whole appearance like idk, its just not for me 
that is also fair, but i still think is up to the person whatever they wanna call them, if that is being str8 too 
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kalypso wrote:
ouch wrote:
kalypso wrote:
what if u start taking hormones for ur birth sex then, will it then go back
Don't think so, which is why detransitioners often struggle cus they are still stuck in a body they don't want or doesn't fit them 
okay, then i see the problem, but i think yes to hormone blockers before 18 then 
Yeah, tho I think its easier for the body to go male-female-male than woman-male n then woman again 
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