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ouch wrote:

Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:

Alam wrote:
It's not just a controversial opinion though, it's a dangerous one.

it's the harsh truth

It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

Ok so, I don't think he meant KILL all old ppl, I think he meant that ppl over a certain age should not be priorotized over younger ppl, which makes 100% sense logically lol, ppl r just scared of other ppl dying even tho they r on their last days already

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Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:

Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:
it's the harsh truth

It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

well yes, but linked to a realistic point of view, i'm not saying it's something that should be agreed with, but that's how the world preferably works

Bit of a contradiction there, mind explaining? I don't understand what you're saying.

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ouch wrote:

Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:
it's the harsh truth

It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

Ok so, I don't think he meant KILL all old ppl, I think he meant that ppl over a certain age should not be priorotized over younger ppl, which makes 100% sense logically lol, ppl r just scared of other ppl dying even tho they r on their last days already

yes this oof

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eytys wrote:

Alam wrote:

eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:
idk how yall can defend saying how much worth does someone have based on their age n then go around crying abt how ppl make you feel worthless, suck a dick

worth is a social construct

So is time and money, your point?

if you go and ask every person on earth how much worth you have, you'll get million of different answers. It's all about who you ask.

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eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:

eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:
idk how yall can defend saying how much worth does someone have based on their age n then go around crying abt how ppl make you feel worthless, suck a dick

worth is a social construct

then you can not go around saying who has more worth or not

I did not. All I did is defending snuf because his opinion isn't nazi-level radical. I never said I agreed with snuf. What I said however is, I don't think we should keep people alive who are only suffering. Not because of their worth, but for their own sake.

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Alam wrote:

ouch wrote:

Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:
it's the harsh truth

It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

Ok so, I don't think he meant KILL all old ppl, I think he meant that ppl over a certain age should not be priorotized over younger ppl, which makes 100% sense logically lol, ppl r just scared of other ppl dying even tho they r on their last days already

I mean yeah, I agree with that but that's not what he said, is it?
"sorry but people who are older than 75 when they die.. it's not sad it's about time "
"honestly i don't care if people don't agree with me on this, we need to stop with the all life is holy and sacred shit because honestly no"

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eytys wrote:

Alam wrote:

ouch wrote:

Alam wrote:
It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

Ok so, I don't think he meant KILL all old ppl, I think he meant that ppl over a certain age should not be priorotized over younger ppl, which makes 100% sense logically lol, ppl r just scared of other ppl dying even tho they r on their last days already

I mean yeah, I agree with that but that's not what he said, is it?
"sorry but people who are older than 75 when they die.. it's not sad it's about time "
"honestly i don't care if people don't agree with me on this, we need to stop with the all life is holy and sacred shit because honestly no"

yeah, this might sound harsh in some way. But snuf never implied to go off and start killing elderly people.

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Miguel wrote:

eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:

eytys wrote:
worth is a social construct

then you can not go around saying who has more worth or not

I did not. All I did is defending snuf because his opinion isn't nazi-level radical. I never said I agreed with snuf. What I said however is, I don't think we should keep people alive who are only suffering. Not because of their worth, but for their own sake.

"Fact is, human beings have an obsession with eternal life. They are not ready to let go. I worked at a hospital and have seen people being 95 and kept alive even though they have no quality of life anymore. They take up space, they cost money and their life isn't worth it anymore. [...]"

? if its not for their worth, why mention it?

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Alam wrote:

eytys wrote:

Alam wrote:

ouch wrote:
Ok so, I don't think he meant KILL all old ppl, I think he meant that ppl over a certain age should not be priorotized over younger ppl, which makes 100% sense logically lol, ppl r just scared of other ppl dying even tho they r on their last days already

I mean yeah, I agree with that but that's not what he said, is it?
"sorry but people who are older than 75 when they die.. it's not sad it's about time "
"honestly i don't care if people don't agree with me on this, we need to stop with the all life is holy and sacred shit because honestly no"

yeah, this might sound harsh at some points. But snuf never implied to go off and start killing elderly people.

Never said he did.

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Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:

Alam wrote:
It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

well yes, but linked to a realistic point of view, i'm not saying it's something that should be agreed with, but that's how the world preferably works

Bit of a contradiction there, mind explaining? I don't understand what you're saying.

oof it's just that, as ouch said, younger people are more prioritized and that's just how realistically the world works, which is why the opinion isn't dangerous, he didn't say that old people should die but rather that they are obviously not going to contribute to society in a useful objective manner. this isn't personal (someone's personal worth), it's about everyone (society uwuwuwu), not the individual itself.

altho im not sure if he says this exactly, but i read it as that

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Miguel wrote:
like if your point is that at that age most of them must be suffering, i can get it
but when you say that they're "a waste of money and take up space, + their life isn't worth it" you're just being a dickhead, full stop
u can say its an opinion, which it is, but it does not mean its not a dickhead opinion

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eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:

eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:
then you can not go around saying who has more worth or not

I did not. All I did is defending snuf because his opinion isn't nazi-level radical. I never said I agreed with snuf. What I said however is, I don't think we should keep people alive who are only suffering. Not because of their worth, but for their own sake.

"Fact is, human beings have an obsession with eternal life. They are not ready to let go. I worked at a hospital and have seen people being 95 and kept alive even though they have no quality of life anymore. They take up space, they cost money and their life isn't worth it anymore. [...]"

? if its not for their worth, why mention it?

okay, yes my wording was bad there. The effort isn't worth it anymore, because the individual doesn't benefit. The individual will still suffer, no matter the effort made.

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ouch wrote:

Alam wrote:

ouch wrote:

Alam wrote:
It's not a truth or a fallacy, it's an opinion.

Ok so, I don't think he meant KILL all old ppl, I think he meant that ppl over a certain age should not be priorotized over younger ppl, which makes 100% sense logically lol, ppl r just scared of other ppl dying even tho they r on their last days already

I mean yeah, I agree with that but that's not what he said, is it?
"sorry but people who are older than 75 when they die.. it's not sad it's about time "
"honestly i don't care if people don't agree with me on this, we need to stop with the all life is holy and sacred shit because honestly no"

Yes I don't understand ur point, the first one can b seen as written ironically/funnily harsher lol n second one is just straight forward, not all life is holy nor sacred, and it should not be saved at all costs

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Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:

Alam wrote:

ESFP wrote:
well yes, but linked to a realistic point of view, i'm not saying it's something that should be agreed with, but that's how the world preferably works

Bit of a contradiction there, mind explaining? I don't understand what you're saying.

oof it's just that, as ouch said, younger people are more prioritized and that's just how realistically the world works, which is why the opinion isn't dangerous, he didn't say that old people should die but rather that they are obviously not going to contribute to society in a useful objective manner. this isn't personal (someone's personal worth), it's about everyone (society uwuwuwu), not the individual itself.

altho im not sure if he says this exactly, but i read it as that

I understand that point, I almost agree with it, but that's not the point I'm arguing about.

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ouch wrote:

eytys wrote:

DUCKBOY wrote:

eytys wrote:
I did not. All I did is defending snuf because his opinion isn't nazi-level radical. I never said I agreed with snuf. What I said however is, I don't think we should keep people alive who are only suffering. Not because of their worth, but for their own sake.

"Fact is, human beings have an obsession with eternal life. They are not ready to let go. I worked at a hospital and have seen people being 95 and kept alive even though they have no quality of life anymore. They take up space, they cost money and their life isn't worth it anymore. [...]"

? if its not for their worth, why mention it?

okay, yes my wording was bad there. The effort isn't worth it anymore, because the individual doesn't benefit. The individual will still suffer, no matter the effort made.

Yes + it shouldn't b controversial to say u can save money on old ppl n use it on younger ppl who can still contribute lol,,, das society for u lmao