before we start more gender related discussio - Forum

Pavlov
International Star

Pavlov wrote:

Rosa wrote:
questions coming through

Can I just be me? Can I be who I want to be? Can I at least try to find myself? Who I feel that I am? Should people give me permission to express myself? Without being degraded, without people assuming things bout me? Can I feel that gender is an important thing in my life? Can I feel that it's THE most important thing in my life? It's the most important thing that has ever appeared here, for me. I want to be a free soul, and I guess that forcing myself into these types of discussions with some people who isn't quiiiiite getting it's importance isn't helping me at all.

I just want to puzzle my pieces together, and the people who already have THEIR finished pieces with different motives on maybe can't help me. Maybe some of them were already finished by someone else at the beginning.

nobody said you could'nt be you small shrimp, but if the "you" you are talking about is so dependant on something that doesnt exist then you should either consider rethinking your views of the world or applying to an insane asylum, otherwise you will never survive in this world

Basil
Youtube Star

Basil wrote:

Monarch wrote:

Rosa wrote:
questions coming through

Can I just be me? Can I be who I want to be? Can I at least try to find myself? Who I feel that I am? Should people give me permission to express myself? Without being degraded, without people assuming things bout me? Can I feel that gender is an important thing in my life? Can I feel that it's THE most important thing in my life? It's the most important thing that has ever appeared here, for me. I want to be a free soul, and I guess that forcing myself into these types of discussions with some people who isn't quiiiiite getting it's importance isn't helping me at all.

I just want to puzzle my pieces together, and the people who already have THEIR finished pieces with different motives on maybe can't help me. Maybe some of them were already finished by someone else at the beginning.

nobody said you could'nt be you small shrimp, but if the "you" you are talking about is so dependant on something that doesnt exist then you should either consider rethinking your views of the world or applying to an insane asylum, otherwise you will never survive in this world

except every single person in this world is dependent on their gender, whether they want to be or not. how you present yourself gender-wise determines how society treats you.

it's frustrating talking with gender abolitionist because, though we need to get rid of gender as a structure, it is still a tangible presence in our day to day lives. calling it fake does not detract from how it is used against women globally, and we have to be able to address these concerns and change how gender is perceived.

before you can abolish gender, you have to liberate 'woman' from the ties it has to patriarchal notions of what a woman should be.

Private
World Famous

Rosa wrote:

Monarch wrote:

Rosa wrote:
questions coming through

Can I just be me? Can I be who I want to be? Can I at least try to find myself? Who I feel that I am? Should people give me permission to express myself? Without being degraded, without people assuming things bout me? Can I feel that gender is an important thing in my life? Can I feel that it's THE most important thing in my life? It's the most important thing that has ever appeared here, for me. I want to be a free soul, and I guess that forcing myself into these types of discussions with some people who isn't quiiiiite getting it's importance isn't helping me at all.

I just want to puzzle my pieces together, and the people who already have THEIR finished pieces with different motives on maybe can't help me. Maybe some of them were already finished by someone else at the beginning.

nobody said you could'nt be you small shrimp, but if the "you" you are talking about is so dependant on something that doesnt exist then you should either consider rethinking your views of the world or applying to an insane asylum, otherwise you will never survive in this world

Gender exists. The binary gender exists, and so does the non-binaries. Some people are genderless, I'm not.

Thank you for this kind note. I totally agree, they should lock me in.

MasileinDE
International Star

MasileinDE wrote:

Basil wrote:

Yoko wrote:

Rosa wrote:
yes wikipedia knows it all. .. . . ?
No but really.
EVERY WOMEN ARE WOMEN!
If you were born with, let's say, a penis, but you're a woman - you're a woman.
If you of some sort of cause aren't able to produce eggs, but you have a vagina - and you're a woman, you're a woman.
Biologically, we're all human beings. We are made of biological cells. Like, everything that grows or lives are biological. We just got different types of genitals so populate earth.

Gender is a social construct.

if you are aware that gender is a social construct, why not dismantle it rather than perpetuating the idea that anyone can be a "woman" if they identify with the gender roles assigned to that descriptor

because despite it being a social construct, we live in a society built on social constructs.

the goal is for gender to eventually not matter. for there to be just PEOPLE and no one gender being '''''better''''' than others. however, that is still a very far off ideal--if we can't even acknowledge that women have basic, inalienable rights around the world how can we even beginning to dismantle gender and gender roles?

given that, people should be allowed to function under these constructs how they want to. literally why deny a woman the right to call herself a woman.

how can we dismantle gender roles if every few weeks people come up with new types of gender and want special treatment for it?