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You are allowed to ask if you want some insights into your own charts, however I want to make clear that I am a beginner, ot at best an amateur, so I can't really understand charts and I make a lot of mistakes, so take my interpretation with a grain of salt. Do it mostly for enternainment purposes. I strongly recommend that if you want an interpretation, you can DM me your birth details instead of writing them down here, because it is always a bit risky with sharing personal information in public. If you do that, I will give your interpretation in DM, but if you share them here, I will of course give you my interpretation here instead.
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#Insight
I have heard from time to time by professional astrologers that when you read a chart, it is not that possible to read from one position, one planet in one sign/house and believe that that will give you the answer. Astrology is an art, just as paiting a picture is, and what you need is the whole picture because the human psyche is very complex and often people have certain dimensions that can often contradict each other or make that person be a bit odd in its appearance. For example, I got an interpretation from an astrologer that I have two sides of my introversion/extroversion personality, where I actually is very shy and inwardlooking sometimes, and at other times can be charming, talkative and outgoing. She said that this could somewhat be said about many people, but is actually noticeable especally about me. And that really struck me, because this is very typical in my experience from day to day life. It is like I have this "complex" about myself, of how I am in front of people. I don't know how she got to that conclusion, but what I can say is that she must have been taking many factors in count when she saw this.
You can read about it here to gain insight form a professional astrologers perspective (there are many valuable teachings from the overall website.
So that's why you should not learn from different astrology softwares that make computerised interpretations for you. They simply doesnt work that well, because the teachings of astrology is not only techniqual but also very intuitive - which a computer cannot take.
#New technique I've learned
For about a week ago I learned about essential dignity in a chart. Let's say you have a planet in debilitation. Does that mean that you are doomed in that area? Certainly not. Because even with that placement, other factors could help you. The most helpful ones (that I know of) is to look at the planet that rules that sign and the planet that exalts in that sign (if there is one) and see where they are placed. If some of them or both of them happen to be placed in the first planets (the one that is debilitated) rulership sign, or its exaltation sign, then they actually HELP the planet that is debilitated. That means that the debilitation becomes pretty much cancelled and perhaps even benefic instead. There isn't only rulership and exaltation, but also triplicity, term and face too (but they aren't as strong as the other two). So in quite many ways a panet can be helped (or maybe even damaged if the other planets are poorly placed instead).
You can look at this software to be able to see rulership, exaltation, triplicity and so on for different planets in you horoscope (but you need your coordinates so you have to look it up online)
#Friends and enemies
I have recently learned about friends and enemies that matters a lot especially in planetary aspects, but also the signs they occupy and perhaps even the houses too (Houses are usually ruled by planets and signs aswell, but I don't see the same strong connection as with the planets and the signs). What determines if planets are friends, neutrals or emenies I think is especially the qualities that they have, if they share some common ground, are similar or simply have a good compatibility. But that can be quite hard to evaluate, since I think you need a deep understanding of the qualities of the planets aswell (so I think it is good to read some authors on this that give a deeper and more abstract explanation, like Dane Rudhyar for example), so despite this maybe there exist som technical ways to examine this? First, I want to make sure that different authors often doenst fully agree what planets are friends and enemies to some extent, so it is a pretty fluid concept in general, but that doesnt mean that it doesn't count. Often you get some kind of feeling to what planets in what signs and so on go well together, and usually other factors determines as well. Some can be more obvious than others, for example Sun and Moon usually are a very good couple, or Jupiter and Saturn are very "good" enemies. It could also be this way that one planet is a good friend to the other, but the other planet doesnt like the first planet back. I have noticed that if a planet is exalted in the other planets rulership sign, then this planet is a friend with the other planet (For example Mars in Capricon which is ruled by Saturn - Mars likes Saturn). And again, at the same time the other planet can actually be debilitated in the first planets rulership and therefore see this planet as an enemy (Saturn in Aries, which is ruled by Mars - Saturn doesnt really like Mars). So it can interestingly go in both ways.
When two planets are friends, it doesnt matter that much that they have difficult aspects with each other, since their friendship can go well together still (Take Sun and Moon opposition for example. They are friends and when Moon is opposite the Sun, that is considered a good thing because that means the person is born on a "full moon", so from what I've heard this makes a strong personality). At the same time, when two planets are enemies with each other, even an easy aspect could be difficult to handle.
As well, when twoo planets are friends or enemies, even if the planets doesnt become exalted och debilitated in each others signs, they can still be good or bad in each other signs to a lesser degree, since they are friends or enemies. So take Moon and Venus, which are pretty good friends. Moon actually likes to be in Libra (ruled by Venus) even if the Moon is not exalted there. And when it comes to Taurus (also ruled by Venus), see there, it is suddenly exalted! This is at least from what I noticed by own observation.
#Philosophical approach
In the astrological community, they often say that the best way to learn astrology is not by sit and learn different rules and techniques and styles etc. The best way is to go out in the night and just watch the sky. Observe for hours, days, weeks, months. It is a form of meditation. Because true astrology is not something detail-oriented, it is purely holitistic. Holistic means "whole" which is easily understood as the "the big picture". I often think that there are two ways to be smart. One way is to dive into the problem, like an arrow shooting for the board, and go deep into the details that you approach. This will give a very narrow look. The other way is to step back, becoming totally empty inside, and then what will happen is all the information, like a huge cloud, will come to you. It will somehow start to make sense. If you observe enough, catiously without too much focus, you will start to see how everything is connected.
I do not say that the "detail oriented" way is bad either. They serve different functions. In fact, the most advanced way that I can think of, is the combination of the two in a smooth manner, so that they do not interfere with each other, but instead, that you shift from one to the other, zooming in and zooming out when it is needed, so you basically get the best of both worlds.
This will be my own topic for astrology purposes. Since you aren't allowed to spam in a topic, I am going to primarily update the first post from time to time, but discussions are allowed of course. The things I will update with will be techniques that I learned, good sources, new insights and overall things that makes me to tick about this subject.
You are allowed to ask if you want some insights into your own charts, however I want to make clear that I am a beginner, ot at best an amateur, so I can't really understand charts and I make a lot of mistakes, so take my interpretation with a grain of salt. Do it mostly for enternainment purposes. I strongly recommend that if you want an interpretation, you can DM me your birth details instead of writing them down here, because it is always a bit risky with sharing personal information in public. If you do that, I will give your interpretation in DM, but if you share them here, I will of course give you my interpretation here instead.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
#Insight
I have heard from time to time by professional astrologers that when you read a chart, it is not that possible to read from one position, one planet in one sign/house and believe that that will give you the answer. Astrology is an art, just as paiting a picture is, and what you need is the whole picture because the human psyche is very complex and often people have certain dimensions that can often contradict each other or make that person be a bit odd in its appearance. For example, I got an interpretation from an astrologer that I have two sides of my introversion/extroversion personality, where I actually is very shy and inwardlooking sometimes, and at other times can be charming, talkative and outgoing. She said that this could somewhat be said about many people, but is actually noticeable especally about me. And that really struck me, because this is very typical in my experience from day to day life. It is like I have this "complex" about myself, of how I am in front of people. I don't know how she got to that conclusion, but what I can say is that she must have been taking many factors in count when she saw this.
You can read about it here to gain insight form a professional astrologers perspective (there are many valuable teachings from the overall website.
So that's why you should not learn from different astrology softwares that make computerised interpretations for you. They simply doesnt work that well, because the teachings of astrology is not only techniqual but also very intuitive - which a computer cannot take.
#New technique I've learned
For about a week ago I learned about essential dignity in a chart. Let's say you have a planet in debilitation. Does that mean that you are doomed in that area? Certainly not. Because even with that placement, other factors could help you. The most helpful ones (that I know of) is to look at the planet that rules that sign and the planet that exalts in that sign (if there is one) and see where they are placed. If some of them or both of them happen to be placed in the first planets (the one that is debilitated) rulership sign, or its exaltation sign, then they actually HELP the planet that is debilitated. That means that the debilitation becomes pretty much cancelled and perhaps even benefic instead. There isn't only rulership and exaltation, but also triplicity, term and face too (but they aren't as strong as the other two). So in quite many ways a panet can be helped (or maybe even damaged if the other planets are poorly placed instead).
You can look at this software to be able to see rulership, exaltation, triplicity and so on for different planets in you horoscope (but you need your coordinates so you have to look it up online)
#Friends and enemies
I have recently learned about friends and enemies that matters a lot especially in planetary aspects, but also the signs they occupy and perhaps even the houses too (Houses are usually ruled by planets and signs aswell, but I don't see the same strong connection as with the planets and the signs). What determines if planets are friends, neutrals or emenies I think is especially the qualities that they have, if they share some common ground, are similar or simply have a good compatibility. But that can be quite hard to evaluate, since I think you need a deep understanding of the qualities of the planets aswell (so I think it is good to read some authors on this that give a deeper and more abstract explanation, like Dane Rudhyar for example), so despite this maybe there exist som technical ways to examine this? First, I want to make sure that different authors often doenst fully agree what planets are friends and enemies to some extent, so it is a pretty fluid concept in general, but that doesnt mean that it doesn't count. Often you get some kind of feeling to what planets in what signs and so on go well together, and usually other factors determines as well. Some can be more obvious than others, for example Sun and Moon usually are a very good couple, or Jupiter and Saturn are very "good" enemies. It could also be this way that one planet is a good friend to the other, but the other planet doesnt like the first planet back. I have noticed that if a planet is exalted in the other planets rulership sign, then this planet is a friend with the other planet (For example Mars in Capricon which is ruled by Saturn - Mars likes Saturn). And again, at the same time the other planet can actually be debilitated in the first planets rulership and therefore see this planet as an enemy (Saturn in Aries, which is ruled by Mars - Saturn doesnt really like Mars). So it can interestingly go in both ways.
When two planets are friends, it doesnt matter that much that they have difficult aspects with each other, since their friendship can go well together still (Take Sun and Moon opposition for example. They are friends and when Moon is opposite the Sun, that is considered a good thing because that means the person is born on a "full moon", so from what I've heard this makes a strong personality). At the same time, when two planets are enemies with each other, even an easy aspect could be difficult to handle.
As well, when twoo planets are friends or enemies, even if the planets doesnt become exalted och debilitated in each others signs, they can still be good or bad in each other signs to a lesser degree, since they are friends or enemies. So take Moon and Venus, which are pretty good friends. Moon actually likes to be in Libra (ruled by Venus) even if the Moon is not exalted there. And when it comes to Taurus (also ruled by Venus), see there, it is suddenly exalted! This is at least from what I noticed by own observation.
#Philosophical approach
In the astrological community, they often say that the best way to learn astrology is not by sit and learn different rules and techniques and styles etc. The best way is to go out in the night and just watch the sky. Observe for hours, days, weeks, months. It is a form of meditation. Because true astrology is not something detail-oriented, it is purely holitistic. Holistic means "whole" which is easily understood as the "the big picture". I often think that there are two ways to be smart. One way is to dive into the problem, like an arrow shooting for the board, and go deep into the details that you approach. This will give a very narrow look. The other way is to step back, becoming totally empty inside, and then what will happen is all the information, like a huge cloud, will come to you. It will somehow start to make sense. If you observe enough, catiously without too much focus, you will start to see how everything is connected.
I do not say that the "detail oriented" way is bad either. They serve different functions. In fact, the most advanced way that I can think of, is the combination of the two in a smooth manner, so that they do not interfere with each other, but instead, that you shift from one to the other, zooming in and zooming out when it is needed, so you basically get the best of both worlds.
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