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lindsay ellis
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sarah z's video about the onceler was really illuminating for me who had never heard of such a thing and im thankful to know about it
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ah yes i discovered her bc of the dashcon video, i cant believe i was on tumblr during that. it feels like a historic event

also superwholock... oh my god... cant believe i was part of 2/3 of it

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Claire wrote:
and maybe there NEEDS to be a distinction between this kind of cancel and the type of cancel that's about woody allen and shit????? because right now society is lumping these together under one concept.
I think you get what i meant now. 

Maybe it was not as bad as or whataboutism, tho I brought up the alt right cuz they actually shut ppl down. Like doxing and outing jews on twitter, or gamer gate getting women fired. Is this the kinda stuff that is happening in "woke cancel culture?" Maybe it is and it should be discussed if so, but I havent seen it. 

Like all that happened here is Lindsay didnt respond well to a misunderstanding, people lost their shit, so she took control and distanced herself from Twitter. I agree that ppl went too far and that this shit happens a lot. Its dumb.

I guess its just a semantics thing for me tho cuz people being hypersensitive and causing needless drama is just not the same as having your livelihood destroyed cuz of your economic status or identity. Both things suck but... they're different things lol. I agree ppl dont make a distinction... my point is there ought to be. 
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Anachronism wrote:
Claire wrote:
and maybe there NEEDS to be a distinction between this kind of cancel and the type of cancel that's about woody allen and shit????? because right now society is lumping these together under one concept.
I think you get what i meant now. 

Maybe it was not as bad as or whataboutism, tho I brought up the alt right cuz they actually shut ppl down. Like doxing and outing jews on twitter, or gamer gate getting women fired. Is this the kinda stuff that is happening in "woke cancel culture?" Maybe it is and it should be discussed if so, but I havent seen it. 

Like all that happened here is Lindsay didnt respond well to a misunderstanding, people lost their shit, so she took control and distanced herself from Twitter. I agree that ppl went too far and that this shit happens a lot. Its dumb.

I guess its just a semantics thing for me tho cuz people being hypersensitive and causing needless drama is just not the same as having your livelihood destroyed cuz of your economic status or identity. Both things suck but... they're different things lol. I agree ppl dont make a distinction... my point is there ought to be. 
yea i think youre onto something here
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Koolaid wrote:
ah yes i discovered her bc of the dashcon video, i cant believe i was on tumblr during that. it feels like a historic event

also superwholock... oh my god... cant believe i was part of 2/3 of it

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lmao i miss when tumblr ws fun to dunk on 
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Claire wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Also hasnt she had a hate mob 4ever cuz she was formerly an employee 4 TGWTG and is a liberal women kon the internet? 

Idgi, shes had some takes I dont agree w/ before but I dont hate her shes funny 

like nobody should agree entirely with every breadtuber they like. and you should be able to watch people and enjoy their content even if you FULLY disagree like have a conversation. 

literally being a Woman On The Internet sucks so hard this is why i end up spending all my time online here on VP because we're all girls gays and theys here.
I mean u may have a point I didnt know ppl actually like... were saying they were happy to cancel ellis 

Its possibly lindsay's hate mob may have been after her or attempted to egg ppl on but idk 

I actually think people have a point that she poorly worded her take and didnt properly acknowledge that when pointed out but it got petty super fast lmfao 

There are better things to fight about than a person not voicing themselves clearly... like ya no actual racism LMFAO
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Claire wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Claire wrote:
and maybe there NEEDS to be a distinction between this kind of cancel and the type of cancel that's about woody allen and shit????? because right now society is lumping these together under one concept.
I think you get what i meant now. 

Maybe it was not as bad as or whataboutism, tho I brought up the alt right cuz they actually shut ppl down. Like doxing and outing jews on twitter, or gamer gate getting women fired. Is this the kinda stuff that is happening in "woke cancel culture?" Maybe it is and it should be discussed if so, but I havent seen it. 

Like all that happened here is Lindsay didnt respond well to a misunderstanding, people lost their shit, so she took control and distanced herself from Twitter. I agree that ppl went too far and that this shit happens a lot. Its dumb.

I guess its just a semantics thing for me tho cuz people being hypersensitive and causing needless drama is just not the same as having your livelihood destroyed cuz of your economic status or identity. Both things suck but... they're different things lol. I agree ppl dont make a distinction... my point is there ought to be. 
yea i think youre onto something here
There's something about the way cancel culture is framed in popular culture that feels so privileged to me I guess 

But there is also something about the internet that just breeds the stupidest of drama as well lmfao, and ppl on the left arent above it 
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I have to go to bed but this convo was fun
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Anachronism wrote:
I have to go to bed but this convo was fun
thank u for ur participation 
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Final take of the night b4 I shower: 

I think one of the reasons debates are easier on places like vp is because it's a far smaller platform. 

Larger sites like Twitter, Facebook nd reddit are more petty because they're larger platforms. Also consider social media lacks anonymity so it's easier to find ppls accounts 

Like it's easier to share a tweet and send a bunch of ppl over to ur thread to flame u over a misunderstanding than it is on a small, anonymous forum site 

Once the flame wars hit all civility is lost. Get ppl after u before u can clear stuff up and ur fucked 
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Claire wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
I have to go to bed but this convo was fun
thank u for ur participation 
I hate that I have less time to argue on vp these days lol
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Anachronism wrote:
Final take of the night b4 I shower: 

I think one of the reasons debates are easier on places like vp is because it's a far smaller platform. 

Larger sites like Twitter, Facebook nd reddit are more petty because they're larger platforms. Also consider social media lacks anonymity so it's easier to find ppls accounts 

Like it's easier to share a tweet and send a bunch of ppl over to ur thread to flame u over a misunderstanding than it is on a small, anonymous forum site 

Once the flame wars hit all civility is lost. Get ppl after u before u can clear stuff up and ur fucked 
yea i fully agree here i really value having a small space online to chat 
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Claire wrote:
idk seems like a dumb thing to get fuckin bombarded with hate tweets by your own audience over 

like maybe its a bad take lmao but holy shit 
lol why are people mad at this, everyone were shitting on mulan when it came out saying that its just white people taking things they want from asian cultures and mixing it with white culture, and that it was obvious that it was made by mostly white people, and this is made by the same people, i assume
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