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is it problematic to like harry potter
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Heartbroken wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:

valid, im very diverse in what i listen to but taylor just means a lot to me i guess? i rly like good lyrics, and shes one of the best for that imo
it is what it is, i never went down that route 

fair enough
and i try to not restrict myself listening to english songs 
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Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
it is what it is, i never went down that route 

fair enough
and i try to not restrict myself listening to english songs 

ohh ye makes sense

i dont like to listen to things in languages i dont understand so englush is the way for me fghgh
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Heartbroken wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:

fair enough
and i try to not restrict myself listening to english songs 

ohh ye makes sense

i dont like to listen to things in languages i dont understand so englush is the way for me fghgh
my french improved extremely quickly once i started listening to french hiphop like i've noticed a significant change, i'm not that occupied with the words but i will generally look up the lyrics and read them in english and be like okay i see 
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Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
it is what it is, i never went down that route 

fair enough
and i try to not restrict myself listening to english songs 
kalandra's norwegian songs tho 
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Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
and i try to not restrict myself listening to english songs 

ohh ye makes sense

i dont like to listen to things in languages i dont understand so englush is the way for me fghgh
my french improved extremely quickly once i started listening to french hiphop like i've noticed a significant change, i'm not that occupied with the words but i will generally look up the lyrics and read them in english and be like okay i see 

thats cool tho!
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Eostre wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:

fair enough
and i try to not restrict myself listening to english songs 
kalandra's norwegian songs tho 
i don't listen to norwegian music except karpe diem from when they were named that and kaizers orchestra and occasionally sommerflørt lmao 
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Heartbroken wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
Heartbroken wrote:

ohh ye makes sense

i dont like to listen to things in languages i dont understand so englush is the way for me fghgh
my french improved extremely quickly once i started listening to french hiphop like i've noticed a significant change, i'm not that occupied with the words but i will generally look up the lyrics and read them in english and be like okay i see 

thats cool tho!
and german because according to spotify my favourite artist over time has been rammstein 
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the world ain't black and white - bad people can do good things, good people can do bad things, and famous folks are no exception.
if you can acknowledge that the lens through which she wrote it was problematic and prejudiced at times (which it seems like all of y'all understand), and can assess the content accordingly, I don't see why it's a big deal to love what you love. Just love it critically, and honestly. 

Signed,
- Someone Who Likes a Lot of Problematic Media 
(* just google my username its literally problematic media lol)
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I guess I could have answered the question more succinctly

Is it problematic to like it? Not really
It it problematic to DEFEND it? Absolutely. 
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Claire wrote:
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Taylor Swift - The Man (Official Video) its this one for me
cuase shes right. if she were a man the media wouldnt criticise her they way they do they would celebrate her for the very things they shit all over her for now. i also would be alpha af if i was a man but as a chick im 'bossy' and 'annoying' 
facts

loved her grammy speech
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I think art can be separated from the artist tho

Like, I still like Kanye's music lmao
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No its not :)
You can like it, doesn't mean you like the creator 
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no, it's based.
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I think most people who enjoyed Harry Potter agreed to a "death of the author" reading of Harry Potter, even before Rowling began with her transphobic rants in public.

When she tweeted that toilets didn't exist on Hogwarts when the school was built, and that students shat in the hallways and apparated the poo away (or waited for an older student to do it if they were a first year) I think most people just decided, that she wasn't that important for the enjoyment of the universe she created.

Which honestly makes the discussion very interesting, because a lot of fans had already abandoned her, before she cancelled herself, which I think is a big part of the reason why most people, who enjoy Harry Potter, just decided it didn't really make a difference in their enjoyment of the media. Another part of why it might not feel like supporting the author to continue enjoying the series, is the fact that Harry Potter became a cultural phenomenon quite fast, and it has become a part of popular culture, just like other books by problematic authors has found a place in our modern society (think HP Lovecraft)

With that said, if people don't enjoy the series anymore because of the author it's understandable. You don't have to. I do, however, also think it's unfair to judge people who still enjoy the series, and see it as an acceptance of the author as well, because, as I said, most fans separated the two long before she became controversial. I know a lot of critics will say, that a lot of Rowling's controversial opinions are very prominent in the books as well, and I think it's fair to critique the stuff in the books, that aren't okay, and it's also good to be aware of it. I do, however, also think it's a thing most fans are aware of - the few months I followed the Harry Potter subreddit at least showed that to me, and I actually think Rowling's controversies have helped in that regard, because people go educate themselves on some of the problematic topics to better understand them in the context that is the books they enjoy, and to get a more nuanced view of book-related discussions.

(As for a side note - a lot of critics also say Rowling is an anti-semite, and I'll be honest and say I don't know if she isn't, but if a critic is using the Harry Potter books as proof of it: please go look up Goblins in European folklore in a historical context. The reason it seems anti-semitic is because goblins in folklore - long before Harry Potter was a thing - was anti-semitic. There's tons of other stuff to critique Rowling for - like the slavery of elves in the books.)

But to answer your question: It depends on how you enjoy Harry Potter. If you do it by rereading the books or rewatching the movies, because you enjoyed them in your childhood and find them nostalgic, or just because you want to enjoy them, then I honestly don't see a problem with it. If you enjoy Harry Potter by becoming a stan of Rowling's, or defending her opinions, it is instead problematic, and not a good look.
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Well said, effer
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