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Sabrina Carpenter's new album cover
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I don't think she's a drag queen at all
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devilcake wrote:
Miguel wrote:
overall i think we need to walk on eggshells (/pos) in how we criticize these kinds of actions and/or mainstream representations around women and such, because in one hand we can and should be able to talk about the negative impact that certain things can do regarding the status that women and fem-perceived people, but in the other hand we also can not fall into victim blame women and fem-perceived people for misogyny's existence 

I don't blame women nor fem-perceived people for people's actions against their autonomy and dignity because of how they want to represent or show themselves, because they would still be harmed regardless of how they portray themselves. misogyny is misogyny, and it doesn't "discriminate" between those deemed as "modest" and those deemed as "whores"

but also seeing people trying to defend the cover as something that's been done with a "empowering message" is, imo, delusional . i dont think people should consider anything a woman or fem-perceived person does as empowering just because they are the ones doing it
Ur takes are based n seggsy
kissing ur hand platonically.. 
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Miguel wrote:
overall i think we need to walk on eggshells (/pos) in how we criticize these kinds of actions and/or mainstream representations around women and such, because in one hand we can and should be able to talk about the negative impact that certain things can do regarding the status that women and fem-perceived people, but in the other hand we also can not fall into victim blame women and fem-perceived people for misogyny's existence 

I don't blame women nor fem-perceived people for people's actions against their autonomy and dignity because of how they want to represent or show themselves, because they would still be harmed regardless of how they portray themselves. misogyny is misogyny, and it doesn't "discriminate" between those deemed as "modest" and those deemed as "whores"

but also seeing people trying to defend the cover as something that's been done with a "empowering message" is, imo, delusional . i dont think people should consider anything a woman or fem-perceived person does as empowering just because they are the ones doing it
i agree very good take
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Cashmere2JOOBTEAM wrote:
I don't think she's a drag queen at all
I think it was v funny in drag race when the queens v obviously didnt rly see her as a drag queen with the way they phraced things to her n she was like hehe i do see myself as a drag queen uwu but it was almost completely glossed over…
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I lovr cis women doing drag,  my fave rn is sweet pickles

i fink maddy morphosis cis straight man, is doin more for drag than chappel roan tho 
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devilcake wrote:
Cashmere2JOOBTEAM wrote:
I don't think she's a drag queen at all
I think it was v funny in drag race when the queens v obviously didnt rly see her as a drag queen with the way they phraced things to her n she was like hehe i do see myself as a drag queen uwu but it was almost completely glossed over…
YEAH LMAAAAOOOO
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She wasn't so confident anymore when she was around the real thing
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Miguel wrote:
jiminator wrote:
Miguel wrote:
overall i think we need to walk on eggshells (/pos) in how we criticize these kinds of actions and/or mainstream representations around women and such, because in one hand we can and should be able to talk about the negative impact that certain things can do regarding the status that women and fem-perceived people, but in the other hand we also can not fall into victim blame women and fem-perceived people for misogyny's existence 

I don't blame women nor fem-perceived people for people's actions against their autonomy and dignity because of how they want to represent or show themselves, because they would still be harmed regardless of how they portray themselves. misogyny is misogyny, and it doesn't "discriminate" between those deemed as "modest" and those deemed as "whores"

but also seeing people trying to defend the cover as something that's been done with a "empowering message" is, imo, delusional . i dont think people should consider anything a woman or fem-perceived person does as empowering just because they are the ones doing it
i definitely agree with you yes! and to add to that, women don't have to constantly be empowering. it does seem like it's kind of blurring the line between you know.. being a feminist, and giving into anti-feminist ideals, but it's just tiring to always have to fight for your cause. if that made sense.. but i guess i personally might hold some misogynistic views (very ashamedly so) and that might also influence my opinion of her in general so
true; we (in general) are taught to act in certains ways since we're children, and all the media we consume daily influences us in the way we act or talk, to the point of being able to do things that are unconsciously non feminist . we're not bad people for doing that, but we should try to be critical thinkers as much as possible, although not try to seek perfection
yeah definitely  a good way to approach it!
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Cashmere2JOOBTEAM wrote:
She wasn't so confident anymore when she was around the real thing

Yeah real…

i feel like shes also v separate from the drag world, like yeah gurl ur costumes are camp, but ur not performing for tips or doing shows the way drag queens do,,, lady gaga wore a meat dress but shes not claiming shes a drag queen afaik
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Cashmere2JOOBTEAM wrote:
She wasn't so confident anymore when she was around the real thing
this clock of the gag..
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