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Immaturity causes bullying
Junia
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Junia wrote:
Hate bullying? Want to stop it? Well, you are not going to stop it that easily, because bullying is something incredibly integrated in our system. It is based on immaturity and what causes immaturity is basically peer orientation where young people feel more attached to each other (other immature creatues) than adults that they actually should feel attached to in a perfect world. Therefore, youths don't develop properly. They feel emotionally more obligated to learn from each other and take lesson from each other rather than learn from adults that have more mature brains.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:16 | Times changed: 2
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yea i mean thats /kinda/ factual lol but the reason to why they want to learn from each other is to fit in.. whoever ""learns from adults"" ends up ""not fitting in""
makes no sense i'm hoping someone with my opinion can help me elaborate oof
Date: 19-06-2020 20:18
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Junia wrote:
Heaven wrote:
yea i mean thats /kinda/ factual lol but the reason to why they want to learn from each other is to fit in.. whoever ""learns from adults"" ends up ""not fitting in""
makes no sense i'm hoping someone with my opinion can help me elaborate oof

Here's the point. They don't just learn from each other because they want to fit in. It is not basically peer pressure, it is actually deeper than that. It is because most young people today actually are emotionally attached to their peers. That is a difference because it is almost like they already "fit in" in the first place. It is not good however. Because attachment law is basically that if you feel extremely polaraised towards on thing, that makes you repelled to another thing, which in this case is adults and even young people that actually has an attachment to adults (often little nerdy types). 

And yes, you are right that young people that learn from adults have it generally harder to fit in.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:23
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Limbs wrote:
source? 
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:24
Junia
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Junia wrote:
Limbs wrote:
source? 
Sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlMkWJY5T_w

It is a long video, but you can perhaps just watch parts of it.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:25
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Laboratory wrote:
just wanna add that adults bully too
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:25
Junia
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Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
just wanna add that adults bully too

Yes, true.
Two reasons:
First bullying have always existed, HOWEVER not as much as today.
Second, many adults are immature too.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:26
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remains wrote:
i mean all it boils down to is a lack of empathy whether it's learned from parents or peers
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:26
Laboratory
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Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
just wanna add that adults bully too

Yes, true.
Two reasons:
First bullying have always existed, HOWEVER not as much as today.
Second, many adults are immature too.

I mean some1 can b quite mature nd still bully so I don't think immaturity is a factor that has to play any sort of dominant part of who is doing the bullying's essence,, some ppl just b assholes
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:29
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Junia wrote:
bones wrote:
i mean all it boils down to is a lack of empathy whether it's learned from parents or peers

Empathy is however not something that is learned but instead is part of development. Having empathy is actually a sign that you are in contact with your vulnerable side.

Many people have not even cried in years. Crying is something incredibly healthy, yet it is seen as weakness and therefore bad. The point of crying is to emotionally heal from a situation that you cannot change.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:29
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Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
just wanna add that adults bully too

Yes, true.
Two reasons:
First bullying have always existed, HOWEVER not as much as today.
Second, many adults are immature too.

I mean some1 can b quite mature nd still bully so I don't think immaturity is a factor that has to play any sort of dominant part of who is doing the bullying's essence,, some ppl just b assholes
Actually immaturity is a huge factor. Of course there are psychopaths, but that's another thing.
Because maturity is basically to understand the world from all developmental stages (that are natural) and the natural world is not that harsch that people think it is. Naturally, we are actually meant to take care of each other and therefore have empathy for each other and espacially the dominant (adult) to take care of the submissive (child). Therefore, empathy is highly improtant for maturity.


edit: Maybe I put it a little bit wrong. Actually, the real reason for lack of empathy is that you are not attached to someone, but not being attached is natural. However, what happens is that if you are attached to other immature, you dont fully learn all the rules such as empathy that you should learn. You are misguided.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:32 | Times changed: 1
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Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:

Yes, true.
Two reasons:
First bullying have always existed, HOWEVER not as much as today.
Second, many adults are immature too.

I mean some1 can b quite mature nd still bully so I don't think immaturity is a factor that has to play any sort of dominant part of who is doing the bullying's essence,, some ppl just b assholes
Actually immaturity is a huge factor. Of course there are psychopaths, but that's another thing.
Because maturity is basically to understand the world from all developmental stages (that are natural) and the natural world is not that harsch that people think it is. Naturally, we are actually meant to take care of each other and therefore have empathy for each other and espacially the dominant (adult) to take care of the submissive (child). Therefore, empathy is highly improtant for maturity.

I mean sure usually but I don't see why it would have to be a big factor for every1 who bullies,,, ik very mature ppl that are still asshats towards others

also idek wym with what I bolded
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:36
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Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:

I mean some1 can b quite mature nd still bully so I don't think immaturity is a factor that has to play any sort of dominant part of who is doing the bullying's essence,, some ppl just b assholes
Actually immaturity is a huge factor. Of course there are psychopaths, but that's another thing.
Because maturity is basically to understand the world from all developmental stages (that are natural) and the natural world is not that harsch that people think it is. Naturally, we are actually meant to take care of each other and therefore have empathy for each other and espacially the dominant (adult) to take care of the submissive (child). Therefore, empathy is highly improtant for maturity.

I mean sure usually but I don't see why it would have to be a big factor for every1 who bullies,,, ik very mature ppl that are still asshats towards others

also idek wym with what I bolded
Maybe they just appear to be mature, but actually haven't matured that way anyway. I don't know them so I cannot speak for that situation. But do they ever cry? Do they feel vulnerable? Are they peer orientated? All these factors matters.
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:39
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This is probably where my sisters philosophy book started talking about you vs the other
Date: 19-06-2020 20:40
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Junia wrote:
Nesta wrote:
This is probably where my sisters philosophy book started talking about you vs the other
Can you elaborate?
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Date: 19-06-2020 20:41
Laboratory
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Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:
Laboratory wrote:
Junia wrote:
Actually immaturity is a huge factor. Of course there are psychopaths, but that's another thing.
Because maturity is basically to understand the world from all developmental stages (that are natural) and the natural world is not that harsch that people think it is. Naturally, we are actually meant to take care of each other and therefore have empathy for each other and espacially the dominant (adult) to take care of the submissive (child). Therefore, empathy is highly improtant for maturity.

I mean sure usually but I don't see why it would have to be a big factor for every1 who bullies,,, ik very mature ppl that are still asshats towards others

also idek wym with what I bolded
Maybe they just appear to be mature, but actually haven't matured that way anyway. I don't know them so I cannot speak for that situation. But do they ever cry? Do they feel vulnerable? Are they peer orientated? All these factors matters.

Well I know them very well nd yes they cry, yes they feel vulnerable, peer oriented? idk I'm talking about an adult so idk why that'd b a factor but I mean the person in question is overall very mature,, responsible, reasonable n shit, still occasionally an asshat towards other ppl tho
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