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do u think diversity in movies and tv series
Pavlov
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should be prioritised before accurate depicition of historical events, and time settings
Private
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no
Pavlov
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im watching that sherlock holes sister tv series and there is a black woman running a fight club and im like hmm
Private
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 no
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No
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
im watching that sherlock holes sister tv series and there is a black woman running a fight club and im like hmm
i guess on one hand its good that theyre giving roles to people who are underrepresented but on the other hand im like eeeee this is not what 1800s england was like
MasileinDE
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no, because then they won't just push that agenda, but might actually make many other "small changes" that actually might really change the story for the worst
like, no worries to try and make accurate depictions or - if it's not an accurate historical thing - add in a bit variety, but no need to push it and actively go looking for forced diversity, especially if you want to stay as "true" as possible to the historical aera
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Pavlov wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
im watching that sherlock holes sister tv series and there is a black woman running a fight club and im like hmm
i guess on one hand its good that theyre giving roles to people who are underrepresented but on the other hand im like eeeee this is not what 1800s england was like
yeah exactly ,, ,,, , , 

i mean sure diversity is nice and i'd more than love it to be there in movies tv shows etc but if  u pus hthat then ur just covering up racism and acting as if that wasnt a thing like , 
Pavlov
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Troublemaker wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
im watching that sherlock holes sister tv series and there is a black woman running a fight club and im like hmm
i guess on one hand its good that theyre giving roles to people who are underrepresented but on the other hand im like eeeee this is not what 1800s england was like
yeah exactly ,, ,,, , , 

i mean sure diversity is nice and i'd more than love it to be there in movies tv shows etc but if  u pus hthat then ur just covering up racism and acting as if that wasnt a thing like , 
yea lol theyre recreating history in the way they want it instead of taking the chance to teach people how it actually was
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Troublemaker wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
im watching that sherlock holes sister tv series and there is a black woman running a fight club and im like hmm
i guess on one hand its good that theyre giving roles to people who are underrepresented but on the other hand im like eeeee this is not what 1800s england was like
yeah exactly ,, ,,, , , 

i mean sure diversity is nice and i'd more than love it to be there in movies tv shows etc but if  u pus hthat then ur just covering up racism and acting as if that wasnt a thing like , 
very true

that can end up being very problematic actually
Alam
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I think people who say they care about historical accuracy so much should focus on things like costume design and language if they truly care so much. Otherwise it's just a bad look.
MasileinDE
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Troublemaker wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
im watching that sherlock holes sister tv series and there is a black woman running a fight club and im like hmm
i guess on one hand its good that theyre giving roles to people who are underrepresented but on the other hand im like eeeee this is not what 1800s england was like
yeah exactly ,, ,,, , , 

i mean sure diversity is nice and i'd more than love it to be there in movies tv shows etc but if  u pus hthat then ur just covering up racism and acting as if that wasnt a thing like , 

that's actually the issue
like, there's both sides to this argument
you shouldn't perpetuate the racist visions of the times back then (and let's face it, for many still today) without there being an open discussion about why it is an issue
but on the other hand, don't go acting like it never happened
also, to really help counteract that, for everything in a modern setting, do go the route of actively looking for "diverse" leads with a proper story and good back line (like also here forced diversity will just flop and make you look like an utter idiot who wasn't even able to push a political agenda that people so much like to talk about today)
like, work with what is still around today and deliver it as candid as you can - market diversity for everyone
MasileinDE
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Alam wrote:
I think people who say they care about historical accuracy so much should focus on things like costume design and language if they truly care so much. Otherwise it's just a bad look.

well to be fair, that is an issue too, though as someone super uninformed, seeing skin colour is easier than pinpointing out costume mistakes because of the wrong cut or stitch method
so, yeah, it's a valid point, if you want to be historically accurate, don't just fight about the racial issue
but considering the political climate and how most people have no idea what they are talking about, it makes sense that this is the most "easy to converse upon controversial topic" when it comes to historical movies for people who don't know much stuff
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Alam wrote:
I think people who say they care about historical accuracy so much should focus on things like costume design and language if they truly care so much. Otherwise it's just a bad look.
hey im just opening a discussion, i just think its an interesting dilemma
Alam
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Pavlov wrote:
Alam wrote:
I think people who say they care about historical accuracy so much should focus on things like costume design and language if they truly care so much. Otherwise it's just a bad look.
hey im just opening a discussion, i just think its an interesting dilemma
And I'm continuing the discussion, what's wrong?
Persona
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i personally don't think historical accuracy is all that important in film tbh. People are waaaaay to be obsessed with things being 'realistic' in that sense. 
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