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interesting article
Persona
Streetmusician



www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face

how do you feel about the 'instagram face'?
MasileinDE
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Haven't read the whole article yet, but if this really goes the way I expect it to:
I find it super interisting. Personally, not my look and all, but the way it works and how it tells us how society and ideals/standards work and develop is very interesting. The pseudo sociologist in my really gets off on things like this.
Persona
Streetmusician



MasileinDE wrote:
Haven't read the whole article yet, but if this really goes the way I expect it to:
I find it super interisting. Personally, not my look and all, but the way it works and how it tells us how society and ideals/standards work and develop is very interesting. The pseudo sociologist in my really gets off on things like this.
I was talking to my bf yesterday about how disturbed i was at the amount of 'egirls' who facetune the living fuck of their face, to the point where they look half alien, and THOUSANDS of people reply like 'omg beauty <3 wish i was you <3 marry me <3' and i'm there like ??? cannot they not see that there is no way this person looks like this... it feels like i'm seeing the sky blue but everyone tells me it's green 
MasileinDE
International star



Persona wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Haven't read the whole article yet, but if this really goes the way I expect it to:
I find it super interisting. Personally, not my look and all, but the way it works and how it tells us how society and ideals/standards work and develop is very interesting. The pseudo sociologist in my really gets off on things like this.
I was talking to my bf yesterday about how disturbed i was at the amount of 'egirls' who facetune the living fuck of their face, to the point where they look half alien, and THOUSANDS of people reply like 'omg beauty <3 wish i was you <3 marry me <3' and i'm their like ??? cannot they not see that there is no way this person looks like this... it feels like i'm seeing the sky blue but everyone tells me it's green 

I feel like most of the times you can tell it's not the real face, but people just don't care. It's the striving for the aesthetic without questioning its origin, purpose or longevity. Maybe even viability? Like ... you can observe the same work when it comes to trends throughout history in general, but now with social media and the all-aroundness of the internet, it's way more obvious and easier to achieve and copy. People don't care if they get shown the truth, people want to see what they think is pretty or what they have been told is pretty. And that's where it ends. It is getting more and more difficult to go against the grain, if what the "world" perceives as beautiful and "should be achieved at any cost" isn't what you deem it to be.
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I understand how it is a problem and how we really should introduce a new mandatory school subject that deals with how to navigate the internet (a mix of legal stuff, basic computer science,psychological stuff) but on the other hand are ppl really that stupid overall to believe those photos with filters and face tune and all that shit? I refuse to believe that the majority falls for it.
MasileinDE
International star



disintegration wrote:
I understand how it is a problem and how we really should introduce a new mandatory school subject that deals with how to navigate the internet (a mix of legal stuff, basic computer science,psychological stuff) but on the other hand are ppl really that stupid overall to believe those photos with filters and face tune and all that shit? I refuse to believe that the majority falls for it.

people are lazy
people are comfortable
it's so much easier to take things at face value instead of questioning it all
question too much and you become bitter - not just because everyone tells you you're bitter, but because you really start to see the constant manipulation and evasion of those holding the megaphone (here used as a metaphor for everyone who gets their views, opinions, looks, whatever to the world, no matter if they care for it or not)
Private
Youtube star



'Social media has supercharged the propensity to regard one’s personal identity as a potential source of profit—and, especially for young women, to regard one’s body this way, too ... For those born with assets—natural assets, capital assets, or both—it can seem sensible, even automatic, to think of your body the way that a McKinsey consultant would think about a corporation: identify underperforming sectors and remake them, discard whatever doesn’t increase profits and reorient the business toward whatever does.'

nice
MasileinDE
International star



Delusion1111111 wrote:
'Social media has supercharged the propensity to regard one’s personal identity as a potential source of profit—and, especially for young women, to regard one’s body this way, too ... For those born with assets—natural assets, capital assets, or both—it can seem sensible, even automatic, to think of your body the way that a McKinsey consultant would think about a corporation: identify underperforming sectors and remake them, discard whatever doesn’t increase profits and reorient the business toward whatever does.'

nice

it's the crux of how many Gen Z girls (women maybe even, I never really get the age brackets) and also a bunch of millenials think
I mean, go ask young teenagers what they want to be. most of them will envision a career in self-employed social media influencing (me not knowing what it's actually called, but yeah, basically many dream of being an influencer of some kind)
and it even comes naturally to them, because they grow up in that environment and learn how to master it by just spending time on it
Persona
Streetmusician



MasileinDE wrote:
Persona wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Haven't read the whole article yet, but if this really goes the way I expect it to:
I find it super interisting. Personally, not my look and all, but the way it works and how it tells us how society and ideals/standards work and develop is very interesting. The pseudo sociologist in my really gets off on things like this.
I was talking to my bf yesterday about how disturbed i was at the amount of 'egirls' who facetune the living fuck of their face, to the point where they look half alien, and THOUSANDS of people reply like 'omg beauty <3 wish i was you <3 marry me <3' and i'm their like ??? cannot they not see that there is no way this person looks like this... it feels like i'm seeing the sky blue but everyone tells me it's green 

I feel like most of the times you can tell it's not the real face, but people just don't care. It's the striving for the aesthetic without questioning its origin, purpose or longevity. Maybe even viability? Like ... you can observe the same work when it comes to trends throughout history in general, but now with social media and the all-aroundness of the internet, it's way more obvious and easier to achieve and copy. People don't care if they get shown the truth, people want to see what they think is pretty or what they have been told is pretty. And that's where it ends. It is getting more and more difficult to go against the grain, if what the "world" perceives as beautiful and "should be achieved at any cost" isn't what you deem it to be.
yeah. I think it's kind of related to the fusion of man and machine... we are so used to seeing things through the eye of a camera (because even that isn't 'real' - it's carefully orchestrated angles, lighting, etc) that we don't know how to view things through real human eyes anymore. 

lol this sounds like a boomer 'those young kids are so obsessed with their phones and their camera they don't enjoy things anymore!' but it's not that, it's more like we can only appreciate reality if it's been through several filters of unreality. Like those kind of people who visit art galleries and just walk up to a painting, take a photograph of it and move on without even looking properly at the painting (which i seen happen all the time...)
Persona
Streetmusician



Delusion1111111 wrote:
'Social media has supercharged the propensity to regard one’s personal identity as a potential source of profit—and, especially for young women, to regard one’s body this way, too ... For those born with assets—natural assets, capital assets, or both—it can seem sensible, even automatic, to think of your body the way that a McKinsey consultant would think about a corporation: identify underperforming sectors and remake them, discard whatever doesn’t increase profits and reorient the business toward whatever does.'

nice
yeah, i read that like... damn. 
Persona
Streetmusician



next time i think about parts of my face and body i don't like, i'm going to try and think "i don't want to change them for the happiness of myself, or even for the people in my life, but for the happiness of the market' 
MasileinDE
International star



Persona wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Persona wrote:
I was talking to my bf yesterday about how disturbed i was at the amount of 'egirls' who facetune the living fuck of their face, to the point where they look half alien, and THOUSANDS of people reply like 'omg beauty <3 wish i was you <3 marry me <3' and i'm their like ??? cannot they not see that there is no way this person looks like this... it feels like i'm seeing the sky blue but everyone tells me it's green 

I feel like most of the times you can tell it's not the real face, but people just don't care. It's the striving for the aesthetic without questioning its origin, purpose or longevity. Maybe even viability? Like ... you can observe the same work when it comes to trends throughout history in general, but now with social media and the all-aroundness of the internet, it's way more obvious and easier to achieve and copy. People don't care if they get shown the truth, people want to see what they think is pretty or what they have been told is pretty. And that's where it ends. It is getting more and more difficult to go against the grain, if what the "world" perceives as beautiful and "should be achieved at any cost" isn't what you deem it to be.
yeah. I think it's kind of related to the fusion of man and machine... we are so used to seeing things through the eye of a camera (because even that isn't 'real' - it's carefully orchestrated angles, lighting, etc) that we don't know how to view things through real human eyes anymore. 

lol this sounds like a boomer 'those young kids are so obsessed with their phones and their camera they don't enjoy things anymore!' but it's not that, it's more like we can only appreciate reality if it's been through several filters of unreality. Like those kind of people who visit art galleries and just walk up to a painting, take a photograph of it and move on without even looking properly at the painting (which i seen happen all the time...)

oh, this is a good point, haven't really thought about that too long, but yes. the artistic value definitely is a different one and it changes so much

yes, I totally get your point. It's like in the very old times, when you had to have money to go somewhere, nevermind somewhere "exotic". today, if you don't have the financial or timely means to travel and explore, you don't have to. You can just browse on the internet, watch documentaries, follow blogs and vlogs and experience the world in its vast and broad magic through the vision of a camera on the screen of the device of your own choosing. You don't have to "live" something anymore to know about it, its beauty and its story. It's great from an information standpoint and from a purely educational view, but the downside is what we experience in this social media monotony.
Private
National star



“I think that ten years ago it was seen as anti-cerebral to do this,” he said. “But now it’s empowering to do something that gives you an edge. Which is why young people are coming in. They come in to enhance something, rather than coming in to fix something.”.  

“I walked out of the clinic into the Beverly Hills sunshine, laughing a little, imagining what it’d be like to have a spare thirty thousand dollars on hand. I texted photos of my FaceTuned jaw to my friends and then touched my actual jaw, a suddenly optional assemblage of flesh and bone”

it’s so normalized
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