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ok so i do see the argument that
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
people wont react the same if it is the father that moves out and gives up custody of the kids but dooesnt children still hold grudges against their absent fathers? ive never had a that absent father so i dont know
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:07
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Pavlov wrote:
i feel like its not a taboo for men to do it but its still frowned upon right? like ur not gonna be considered a good father.
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ouch wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
i feel like its not a taboo for men to do it but its still frowned upon right?
yea
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:11
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Sofia wrote:
i've had and still have an absent father. do i still hold grudges against him? yes.
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:31
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Aske wrote:
honestly idc what u want or what ur dreams are i you have a child they come first
might b wrong but didn't get the impression that their decisions were taken in anyone but their own best interests
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:32
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Pavlov wrote:
askr wrote:
honestly idc what u want or what ur dreams are i you have a child they come first
might b wrong but didn't get the impression that their decisions were taken in anyone but their own best interests
yea i think parents, at least mothers keep convincing themselves that theyre acting in their childs best interest when their reasoning is literally that they wanted to live a life without having to tend to their childs needs, like fine its a free world, butu should at least stop pretending that youre doing it for anyone but yourself
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:39
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
i think the taboo here is just that women are expected to not be shit parents compared to men
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:46
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ouch wrote:
askr wrote:
honestly idc what u want or what ur dreams are i you have a child they come first
might b wrong but didn't get the impression that their decisions were taken in anyone but their own best interests
I think in some ways yes its only for self interest, but in some ways, doesn't it make sense to rationalize it as u wouldn't b a good parent anyway if u only think abt urself, therefore kid better off if u leave, win win thinkingĀ 
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:50
Wuwu
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wuwu wrote:
women are just birthing and caregiving machines :3
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:50
Aske
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Aske wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
askr wrote:
honestly idc what u want or what ur dreams are i you have a child they come first
might b wrong but didn't get the impression that their decisions were taken in anyone but their own best interests
yea i think parents, at least mothers keep convincing themselves that theyre acting in their childs best interest when their reasoning is literally that they wanted to live a life without having to tend to their childs needs, like fine its a free world, butu should at least stop pretending that youre doing it for anyone but yourself
ye if u abandon ur child u are a bad parent be honest about it pls don't try justify it with saying u were sadĀ 
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:51
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ouch wrote:
wuwu wrote:
women are just birthing and caregiving machines :3
Yes
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Aske
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Aske wrote:
ouch wrote:
askr wrote:
honestly idc what u want or what ur dreams are i you have a child they come first
might b wrong but didn't get the impression that their decisions were taken in anyone but their own best interests
I think in some ways yes its only for self interest, but in some ways, doesn't it make sense to rationalize it as u wouldn't b a good parent anyway if u only think abt urself, therefore kid better off if u leave, win win thinkingĀ 
well yes im sure it all makes sense in the minds of the parents
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Date: 16-04-2021 11:54
Kalypso
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kalypso wrote:
wtf not true at all, men are being hated so much for leaving their kids, it's literal a big joke going around the internet, tho algorithm are still ofc a thing, but everyone i know with an absent father, me including, have many grudge against them.
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Date: 16-04-2021 12:17
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kalypso wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
i feel like its not a taboo for men to do it but its still frowned upon right? like ur not gonna be considered a good father.
ya ig
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Date: 16-04-2021 12:20
Kalypso
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kalypso wrote:
kalypso wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
i feel like its not a taboo for men to do it but its still frowned upon right? like ur not gonna be considered a good father.
ya ig
but it's almost internalized, cause it's always easier for woman to get the full custody than men ever are. so yes u are probably also right about "women are expected to not be shit parents compared to men"
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Date: 16-04-2021 12:21
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scoff wrote:
don't know
sometimes i hold a grudge against my father, sometimes i don't
most of the time i don't
it's not like i suffered just 'cause he wasn't there, you know? he's never been that important to me
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