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It concerns me how many
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young people I know, truly don't give a shit about climate change.

We won't be able to keep the Paris agreement. Looking at the insane rain there was in Germany where a lot of people passed away, not to mention a lot of other manmade weather and climate disasters. 

It concerns me that the only reason why we saw improvement was due to lockdown and a pandemic. That fact that, thats was the only thing (a lockdown) that somehow managed to help is insane.

I'm baffled. I'm frustrated. Over the past five years I've done some lifestyle changes to try to do "my" part in this, but when literally next to one does anything about it themselves, god damn it's annoying.
A week ago a giant turtle washed up, which is weird since it's Denmark. Poor creature was found with plastic bags in its' stomach.  A cow died after they accidentally consumed a beer/soda can. It literally cut up its intestines. Imagine how painful that must've been.
Whenever the discussion comes up it's still the "i don't wanna change, but everybody else can, so it'll be fine" Like no. The stubbornness is exhausting. 

A buddy of mine once said "If everybody else in his family chooses to live more climate friendly, then it would probably be ok if he didn't" LIKE NO. What makes you so god damn special



sorry for the rant im just tired and annoyed lol
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until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
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Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Yeah billionaires and companies etc is at fault as well, but they can only do what they do bc of us individual people. If people stop supporting their brands and instead push for better and better, then we'll see more change. As a collective, the people got the power. We just gotta push hard enough.
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n like, these billionaires with their massive companies WANT you to think you have the power to save the planet. they want individual people to feel responsible for this. because that shifts the blame away from them while they're doing 90% of the damage
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It's really upsetting, all of the things humans do to this planet of ours :-c
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Ara wrote:
Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Yeah billionaires and companies etc is at fault as well, but they can only do what they do bc of us individual people. If people stop supporting their brands and instead push for better and better, then we'll see more change. As a collective, the people got the power. We just gotta push hard enough.
true but i think you need to do that through activism and legislation. jeff bezos doesn't really care if you recycle your plastic at home or not.
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Limbs wrote:
Ara wrote:
Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Yeah billionaires and companies etc is at fault as well, but they can only do what they do bc of us individual people. If people stop supporting their brands and instead push for better and better, then we'll see more change. As a collective, the people got the power. We just gotta push hard enough.
true but i think you need to do that through activism and legislation. jeff bezos doesn't really care if you recycle your plastic at home or not.
Yeah, we need a LOT to actually create change. It's really hard and a long process, especially since companies etc are so stubborn and cares more about profit than anything else, they'll always try to find loopholes.
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Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
I know, i'm not going to sit and act like i'm a complete saint either. It's frustrating.

From what i've seen so far in regards of bigger companies it tends to turn into finding a scapegoat instead of actually doing anything. As a consumer I myself try to make the right decisions, but it's bloody hard when its often choosing between two evils. 

And yes, active littering is a problem. Of course a big issue can be due to seagulls picking trash from the cans, however that's simply an issue of not having the right trashcans in the city. The birds has and will always be here. i actually recent read an article (i'll try to see if I can find it) where obesity has started to become an issue with the bird life in the cities. 
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Ara wrote:
Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Yeah billionaires and companies etc is at fault as well, but they can only do what they do bc of us individual people. If people stop supporting their brands and instead push for better and better, then we'll see more change. As a collective, the people got the power. We just gotta push hard enough.
That's also an issue. There will always be people supporting often because fast fashion is cheaper. I do understand that some might only have this option in regards of purchasing whatever they need (however thrifting is an option.)

Luckily thrift shopping is "trending" in the recent years.
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Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Billionaires won't do something that's why we as individuals need to come together and tax them, limit their power, put laws into place that stop the exploitation of the planet. But people are so afraid to lose their western lifestyle that they don't act. 
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Sylvan wrote:
Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Billionaires won't do something that's why we as individuals need to come together and tax them, limit their power, put laws into place that stop the exploitation of the planet. But people are so afraid to lose their western lifestyle that they don't act. 
yes, that's what i'm saying. getting mad at your peers for not being sustainable enough in their daily life is pointless
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YEAHhh same... most of my friends doesn't. like yes they know things but they just don't care?  
also i see how it might be scary to some people. because starting live more sustainable might seem like that you need to give up a lot from your life and starting recycle etc takes more effort and you might have to change some of your old habits  etc
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 "i don't wanna change, but everybody else can, so it'll be fine" this line has me fuming at people. 
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Limbs wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
Billionaires won't do something that's why we as individuals need to come together and tax them, limit their power, put laws into place that stop the exploitation of the planet. But people are so afraid to lose their western lifestyle that they don't act. 
yes, that's what i'm saying. getting mad at your peers for not being sustainable enough in their daily life is pointless
I mean it's doubtful that those who don't give a fuck in their own life will do anything to hold those in power of changing things accountable. 
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i think a lot of ppl do care but feel very very powerless to actually do anything about it themselves . which is like, fair enough . we are kind of powerless. U can recycle all u want and the government will still secretly dump all of that plastic abroad somewhere instead of recycling it and u wont even know . its all fucked n it wont get solved under capitalism
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Limbs wrote:
until the billionaires decide to do something, individual people making changes in their own life isn't gonna save the planet. you're placing blame on the wrong people here, imo.

though i mean if they're actively littering in nature or something like then that obviously has a negative impact. but ppl just living normally don't have much power to change things by doing extra stuff to be more sustainable
We can hold billionaries and companies at charge all we want, but if we don't change our consumptions, they also have no pressure to do so as a company either ngl.

Imo i think it needs to be a shared effort 
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