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Koolaid wrote:
what is your opinion on it or opinion on sex work in general?

nordic model refers to the approach that situates prostitution on a continuum of male violence against women. It is an approach that criminalizes the purchase of sex and pimping but decriminalizes prostituted indi- viduals. This is known as “asymmetric criminali- zation”. (google)

but there has been quite some criticism on it

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Claire wrote:
its the best option taht exists imo like coercing women to sleep with you with money is immoral and prostituted women are victims and frequently in that position by force or simply because theyre out of other options and they shouldnt be punished for the immoral actions of the oppressing class.

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Claire wrote:
like people be like 'coerced sex is rape' and then turn around and say sex work is totally fine

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Claire wrote:
leftists be like 'there is no ethical consumption undercapitalism' with onlyfans on their bank statement

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Claire wrote:
onlyfans is a pimp and a sex work pyramid scheme

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i think all forms of sex work is inherently exploitative and sexist because of the patriarchy. i think there's no 'healthy' way for a woman to be in the porn industry. i think, unlike other physical labors, sex is one of the only actions that should be carried out with FULL consent. which means under no form of coercion, and this includes money. (money is a coercion tool)

i think onlyfans is better in that regard but also should NEVER be glorified. onlyfans is something that is definitely, with no exceptions, going to ruin your chance at a professional job. also, the earnings for onlyfans in the 95% is abysmally low, the average MONTHLY earnings of an onlyfans sex worker is 200 dollars. MONTHLY

i also think that the internet grooms young girls into sex work. comments such as 'i cant wait to start an onlyfans!' are the evidence of grooming. and i also do not think an 18 year old adult, despite them being legal, has the intelligence to consent to sex work (see: mia khalifa)

that said. i DO NOT condone the shaming of sex workers. some people truly have no other way of making money. and shaming individuals does no good. but I do think that the glorification of sex work is really REALLY bad and it's basically diet capitalism/sexism grooming young women into being 'porn ready'.

basically the girlbossing of sex work is happening. the illusion of agency is sold while you are still a slave to the oppressive industry. it is NOT liberating to do exactly what the sex industry wants from you, which is to put a cheap price to ur body and sell it, and delude you into thinking that that's empowerment.

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Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
i think all forms of sex work is inherently exploitative and sexist because of the patriarchy. i think there's no 'healthy' way for a woman to be in the porn industry. i think, unlike other physical labors, sex is one of the only actions that should be carried out with FULL consent. which means under no form of coercion, and this includes money. (money is a coercion tool)

i think onlyfans is better in that regard but also should NEVER be glorified. onlyfans is something that is definitely, with no exceptions, going to ruin your chance at a professional job. also, the earnings for onlyfans in the 95% is abysmally low, the average MONTHLY earnings of an onlyfans sex worker is 200 dollars. MONTHLY

i also think that the internet grooms young girls into sex work. comments such as 'i cant wait to start an onlyfans!' are the evidence of grooming. and i also do not think an 18 year old adult, despite them being legal, has the intelligence to consent to sex work (see: mia khalifa)

that said. i DO NOT condone the shaming of sex workers. some people truly have no other way of making money. and shaming individuals does no good. but I do think that the glorification of sex work is really REALLY bad and it's basically diet capitalism/sexism grooming young women into being 'porn ready'.

basically the girlbossing of sex work is happening. the illusion of agency is sold while you are still a slave to the oppressive industry. it is NOT liberating to do exactly what the sex industry wants from you, which is to put a cheap price to ur body and sell it, and delude you into thinking that that's empowerment.

thats exactly right

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Claire wrote:
leftists be like 'there is no ethical consumption undercapitalism' with onlyfans on their bank statement

PLS

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Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
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thats exactly right

yeah i have been reading/watching some stuff and it's nice. but bringing it up w friends is hard bc it's very easy to come over as slut shame-y

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Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:
leftists be like 'there is no ethical consumption undercapitalism' with onlyfans on their bank statement

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Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
i think all forms of sex work is inherently exploitative and sexist because of the patriarchy. i think there's no 'healthy' way for a woman to be in the porn industry. i think, unlike other physical labors, sex is one of the only actions that should be carried out with FULL consent. which means under no form of coercion, and this includes money. (money is a coercion tool)

i think onlyfans is better in that regard but also should NEVER be glorified. onlyfans is something that is definitely, with no exceptions, going to ruin your chance at a professional job. also, the earnings for onlyfans in the 95% is abysmally low, the average MONTHLY earnings of an onlyfans sex worker is 200 dollars. MONTHLY

i also think that the internet grooms young girls into sex work. comments such as 'i cant wait to start an onlyfans!' are the evidence of grooming. and i also do not think an 18 year old adult, despite them being legal, has the intelligence to consent to sex work (see: mia khalifa)

that said. i DO NOT condone the shaming of sex workers. some people truly have no other way of making money. and shaming individuals does no good. but I do think that the glorification of sex work is really REALLY bad and it's basically diet capitalism/sexism grooming young women into being 'porn ready'.

basically the girlbossing of sex work is happening. the illusion of agency is sold while you are still a slave to the oppressive industry. it is NOT liberating to do exactly what the sex industry wants from you, which is to put a cheap price to ur body and sell it, and delude you into thinking that that's empowerment.

thats exactly right

yeah i have been reading/watching some stuff and it's nice. but bringing it up w friends is hard bc it's very easy to come over as slut shame-y

i just ask a lot of questions until people realize their own logical inconsistencies.

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Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:
thats exactly right

yeah i have been reading/watching some stuff and it's nice. but bringing it up w friends is hard bc it's very easy to come over as slut shame-y

i just ask a lot of questions until people realize their own logical inconsistencies.

it's very hard bc when i say that the issue of violence to women in porn is concerning, they just equate it to 'well thats like saying video games makes ppl violent hurhur'

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Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
yeah i have been reading/watching some stuff and it's nice. but bringing it up w friends is hard bc it's very easy to come over as slut shame-y

i just ask a lot of questions until people realize their own logical inconsistencies.

it's very hard bc when i say that the issue of violence to women in porn is concerning, they just equate it to 'well thats like saying video games makes ppl violent hurhur'

video games arent literal human women being choked out on camera lmfao its literally not a good arguement

youre reading gail dines and shit right

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Koolaid wrote:
this generation has a boner for empowerment-ificating everything. sex work is not empowering, plastic surgery is not empowering. ur literally catering to society's standard. it's literally girlboss gaslight gatekeep x1000

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Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:

Claire wrote:

i just ask a lot of questions until people realize their own logical inconsistencies.

it's very hard bc when i say that the issue of violence to women in porn is concerning, they just equate it to 'well thats like saying video games makes ppl violent hurhur'

video games arent literal human women being choked out on camera lmfao its literally not a good arguement

youre reading gail dines and shit right

yeah and i also liked a lot of the vids from this girl who is a radfem (but prefers not to go by that term anymore bc of its terfy association) on tiktok. but yeah it's nice to read

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Claire wrote:

Koolaid wrote:
this generation has a boner for empowerment-ificating everything. sex work is not empowering, plastic surgery is not empowering. ur literally catering to society's standard. it's literally girlboss gaslight gatekeep x1000

people dont wanna admit that theyre victims of this society. like its one thing to say 'we live in a partriarchy' but suddenly saying like 'patriarchy has influenced my personal choices' makes you feel like youre stupid or something. like people dont wanna say theyre effected by it personally- like im too strong for that. idk.