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Adamandeve
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adamandeve wrote:
I no longer have a solid stance on anything. I have played devil's advocate for so long that I have become hollow, every statement, every argument, I always hear it and think 'Oh, sounds like a good argument'.
What do I do, I have essentially become devoid of any personality. How do I form opinions? My own principles? My own ethical codes? I am not passionate about anything, and I don't like the discomfort that comes with someone disagreeing with me. 
Well I do have SOME opinions but I'm also able to sacrifice those if someone convinces me well enough. I'm so easily persuadable.  I want to assert myself.
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Date: 18-02-2022 18:31
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Sylvan wrote:
strong first post
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adamandeve wrote:
Sylvan wrote:
strong first post
... Thanks?
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Date: 18-02-2022 18:42
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sapovnela wrote:
spend time alone and gradually build yourself up? learn that your opinion doesn't have to match other peoples for them to be valid, because everyone has their own truth. they can persuade you because you eventually start seeing it from their point of view and it does start to make sense that way, but you have to find your own truth in order to be confident about the statements you make
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Date: 19-02-2022 01:04
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autism wrote:
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also not having an opinion in everything is okay
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omamori wrote:
me too lmao !
i have no advice . just wanted u 2 know u werent alone in the perpetual search for a solid stance on literally anything
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Claire wrote:
lol
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Date: 19-02-2022 03:02
Adamandeve
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adamandeve wrote:
omamori wrote:
me too lmao !
i have no advice . just wanted u 2 know u werent alone in the perpetual search for a solid stance on literally anything
Good to know 
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Date: 19-02-2022 16:54
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Stop doing it and actually see which arguments you agree with the most on a personal level. It's hard to have well founded opinions on everything so start with something you actually care about. Opinions change with access to new information/knowledge all the time, but some stay anyways as they are more you than the other. Doesn't even mean there is a right/wrong take on it. You can have multiple understandings. 
Date: 19-02-2022 17:19
Adamandeve
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adamandeve wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Stop doing it and actually see which arguments you agree with the most on a personal level. It's hard to have well founded opinions on everything so start with something you actually care about. Opinions change with access to new information/knowledge all the time, but some stay anyways as they are more you than the other. Doesn't even mean there is a right/wrong take on it. You can have multiple understandings. 
I have multiple understandings yes. It's like my opinion changes everytime a well structured argument about an opinion is presented, it changes to match that opinion. Maybe I should start forming my own counter-arguments, and then when I know where I stand I won't need to change it because my mind will be able to make a point that justifies my stance. I don't know if it made sense 
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Date: 19-02-2022 17:31
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adamandeve wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Stop doing it and actually see which arguments you agree with the most on a personal level. It's hard to have well founded opinions on everything so start with something you actually care about. Opinions change with access to new information/knowledge all the time, but some stay anyways as they are more you than the other. Doesn't even mean there is a right/wrong take on it. You can have multiple understandings. 
I have multiple understandings yes. It's like my opinion changes everytime a well structured argument about an opinion is presented, it changes to match that opinion. Maybe I should start forming my own counter-arguments, and then when I know where I stand I won't need to change it because my mind will be able to make a point that justifies my stance. I don't know if it made sense 
Give an example? 
Date: 19-02-2022 17:48
Adamandeve
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adamandeve wrote:
Eostre wrote:
adamandeve wrote:
Eostre wrote:
Stop doing it and actually see which arguments you agree with the most on a personal level. It's hard to have well founded opinions on everything so start with something you actually care about. Opinions change with access to new information/knowledge all the time, but some stay anyways as they are more you than the other. Doesn't even mean there is a right/wrong take on it. You can have multiple understandings. 
I have multiple understandings yes. It's like my opinion changes everytime a well structured argument about an opinion is presented, it changes to match that opinion. Maybe I should start forming my own counter-arguments, and then when I know where I stand I won't need to change it because my mind will be able to make a point that justifies my stance. I don't know if it made sense 
Give an example? 
Like about life philosophys maybe? Like existensialism vs nihilism, I go back and forth between both like I described.
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adamandeve wrote:
Eostre wrote:
adamandeve wrote:
I have multiple understandings yes. It's like my opinion changes everytime a well structured argument about an opinion is presented, it changes to match that opinion. Maybe I should start forming my own counter-arguments, and then when I know where I stand I won't need to change it because my mind will be able to make a point that justifies my stance. I don't know if it made sense 
Give an example? 
Like about life philosophys maybe? Like existensialism vs nihilism, I go back and forth between both like I described.
Philosophy be like that. Personally, I'd say, don't attach yourself to any of it too close to any of it because most people experience both, and more as they go through life - or just a single day. Thebottom of philosophy for me at least is that there's a lived truth, not easily shoved into a single theory because the experience of life is not rooted in theory\reason alone, but also emotion and those keep on flowing, and exist on many more sub-levels and are attached to circumstances that make it hard to find one that will embrace the entire scoop of your existence. Honestly, tho, like if you take anything from those stances it is that to identify with them is useless because either everything is useless or you think that you can create the meaning\purpose for your life that you want. Can everything be useless in the grand scheme of things while we still can give the purpose we want for our lives? Are they contradictory ideas or are they just different sizes? Does it even matter for nihilists that other people may need a purpose? And what are you even seeking in it? A refuge from your experiences, something to separate yourself from what you're going through, something that is like "this is all meaningless anyway, what I do doesn't matter" because you might not be living the life you want\desire? Or do you want to give yourself power by giving your life a larger purpose, maybe something to dedicate yourself to? Or maybe you find more motivation in the idea that nothing truly matters - you can do anything as long as it keeps u afloat? How does that affect the experience of your lived experience, how does it fit in with your human desires? How does it fit in with how you feel and think about things?

If we choose to believe in something or we choose to believe in nothing -- it doesn't truly matter more than how it affects your life in the end, and that's really the importance of it. Which can benefit you the most, or which destroys you the most? Pick what you desire more long and short-term. Don't get attached because either nothing really matters or life is whatever quality you gift it yourself -- and that's just you experiencing your life anyways, constantly biased by your personal convictions. Is there an objective truth? (Now, we're into the ageless questions of humanity: Why are we alive? Why do we exist? What's the purpose of life?) 

Regardless, these are just terms\theories. Not everything needs to make sense, but everything will be experienced. Give it a name if you need to, but every time you name something you also box it in, limit some of it to "fit" a category, maybe start twisting yourself to be more correctly in line with x belief. Whether you name it or not, you're still left with the life are living. The bigger importance of this question is how it affects your life to "believe" in one more than the other, if it does at all, and what you desire to gain from it? Because if you truly want to "just have opinions that are yours" you need to look into your motives, your desires, your insecurities, and convictions about life as you understand it, and so on. And most of the time, I believe that the opinions we have the easier to resonate with reflect some of our deeper hopes for the world we live in and the life we're experiencing. Anyways, opinions in the end are subjective. Some are wider agreed upon for reasons like wellbeing, peace, stability - factors that benefit the life of most people in a community.
Date: 19-02-2022 22:30
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