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am i manipulative wtf
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do not mind the correct punctuation i was ooc πŸ₯°πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’―

Despite my behaviour showing otherwise, I prefer things to be peaceful, which means I don't like to have bad blood with people. When I was younger I usually managed to make amends with people whenever we had issues, I somewhat prided myself in this ability (mostly subconsciously though). Would it be disgusting and selfish of me to ask to be civil with people I currently don't talk with due to falling out with them (resulting in bitterness between all parties)? Like imagine saying "I know you dislike me, I know I fucked up, but I want to be civil", to me it sounds gross and weird and I wouldn't necessarily find it gross and weird from anyone else, I would take it at face value, but I feel like it could be easily interpreted as manipulative if it comes from me.
To be fair, I feel like unfortunately I've done and said (and it seems like I continue to do it) plenty of manipulative things, albeit unaware of how it seemed at the time, but I was no doubt driven by the subconscious knowledge that I was doing something to yield my desired results. From being sweet, to being aggressive, I've done a lot of weird shit that I at first assumed I was being genuine with but no, I had been playing around most of the time and it's no wonder why I tend to regret my actions after I gain some lucidity and look at it from a logical lense. I do things for personal gain and I have had the audacity to berate those who at least owned up to it.
On the other hand, it might just be a natural human thing to do due to however we're wired and all that bullshit and I've just acquired a newfound awareness of it. But nonetheless, I feel like I can't ever word myself in a non-manipulative way, and trying to not do it even screams manipulative itself!! I can't apologize or try to be civil anymore without feeling like I'm crossing boundaries and being disrespectful or something. I'm also still learning to let go, to respect however much time they need without trying to speed up the process of making amends, and even just accepting that they likely won't ever forgive me or make amends with me.
You could argue that "you know your intentions, you don't mean to be manipulative", at this point I don't know!! I feel like I'm faking all of this now, I don't know if I'm truly sorry or if I want to be at peace with people, I don't know if I want to never apologize out of spite and tell them I despise them, I don't know where I stand. Likely not the latter though, even when things start getting heated and I say those things without truly meaning it.
But anyways, as I write this I recognized that I'm writing this thread in hopes of seeming genuine and introspective enough to be complimented. And as disgusting as it is, I also hope that those who I have bad blood with read this and see me in a better light and even decide on being civil with me. I wish I didn't think these things, but alas, animal survival brain blablabla using tactics to survive within the tribe or whatever (my favourite copium mhm).
Fully being honest here because despite my weird nature I don't intend to play with anyone like that, but I think I've become so emotionally confused that I can't tell if my regret is genuine (I want to believe it is?) or if I'm "feeling" it because it's the right thing to feel.
I've got a lot of bad learned behaviour to break out of and I view recognizing this as one more step towards that. But I also intend to see things from an outsider's perspective, hence why I turned this into a thread yes.

(i am ok btw pls)
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i think ur nice at heart and once again i hope ur vampire doctor refers u to feels doctor u need someone to talk toΒ 
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i was posting this with the expectation ofΒ 
"this thread no longer exists"Β  to pop up gj gj working towards #selfhelp altho u need #outsidehelp, most people do
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Misjel wrote:
i think ur nice at heart and once again i hope ur vampire doctor refers u to feels doctor u need someone to talk toΒ 

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as an estp i need context ur just throwing out abstract words stuartlena
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what is ooc
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Maxolotl wrote:
what is ooc
out of character!
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Misjel wrote:
as an estp i need context ur just throwing out abstract words stuartlena
my whole life is context for this i think
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thog2 wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
what is ooc
out of character!
ah
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Maxolotl wrote:
thog2 wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
what is ooc
out of character!
ah
i am so embarrassed writing formally it also feels manipulative everything is manipulation
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thog2 wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
thog2 wrote:
out of character!
ah
i am so embarrassed writing formally it also feels manipulative everything is manipulation
i like writing formally
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Maxolotl wrote:
thog2 wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
ah
i am so embarrassed writing formally it also feels manipulative everything is manipulation
i like writing formally
that is good yes, i like it but only when i keep it to myself i think, or academic stuff
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I can't bother reading but my opinion is that most ppl r manipulative, knowing or unknowlingly. Me too. That is all from me today
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thog2 wrote:
Misjel wrote:
as an estp i need context ur just throwing out abstract words stuartlena
my whole life is context for this i think
that's so vague idk how you act outside of virtual popstar and discordΒ 

anyway i've heard that being super nice and then withdrawing on repeat is a manipulative trait but that doesn't automatically have to translate to i lost my words this is too up in the clouds for me
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thog2 wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
thog2 wrote:
i am so embarrassed writing formally it also feels manipulative everything is manipulation
i like writing formally
that is good yes, i like it but only when i keep it to myself i think, or academic stuff
i don't write formally in text because it requires more attention than simply typing
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ouch wrote:
I can't bother reading but my opinion is that most ppl r manipulative, knowing or unknowlingly. Me too. That is all from me today
#human
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