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amber heard v johnny depp
Koolaid
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what do y'all think?

i frankly find the sudden interest from men in this case a disgusting display of misogyny. the way people online are talking about how amber heard must be lying because she's not presenting herself as the perfect victim. it's a bunch of armchair psychologists analyzing how she's either crying too much, or too little, or recounting things too perfectly, or not accurately at all. ergo she must be lying. how people react to this case is not just a reflection of what people think about amber heard, but a reflection of what is thought of abuse victims in general. 

please know: i do NOT support amber heard. in fact, i believe she singlehandedly has done more to destroy the credibility of female victims than the #metoo movement has worked so hard to achieve. 


yet i feel the massive interest from men, who will use this precedent as a motivation to disbelief all female victims, will make it even harder for female victims to come forward. every abuse case in the future will inevitable be linked to how amber heard lied, so how can we trust you?

the petition to remove amber heard from aquawoman has reached 3 million votes. where was this fervor for ansel elgort, marilyn manson, harvey weinstein, jared leto? most of these have SA cases that are corroborated by witnesses, few of these were punished, but most importantly, none of these cases received the attention from men as much as this case. 

i am not going to ignore the fact that johnny depp suffered from heard's accusations: he lost movie and brand deals and people are rightfully angry about it. yet when the accusations surfaced, there was not nearly this much anger coming from men. in fact, there has not been this much anger from men anytime in the history of such publicized abuse cases. i am tired of pretending we don't know exactly why that is.

amber heard has become the token example of why women shouldn't be believed, and i think that sets a very dangerous precedent.
Alam
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i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
Alam
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Maxolotl wrote:
i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
Not only that but that all genders can be abusers
Private
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Alam wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
Not only that but that all genders can be abusers
yes, that too 
Koolaid
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Maxolotl wrote:
i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
from the social media response, it's painting a very disturbing picture of how female abuse victims are to be treated. a lot of the response toward amber heard's recount of her abuse, whether that is real or fake, is ridicule. they're making fun of how she talks, how she acts, how she must be lying because it 'doesn't look real' (whatever that's supposed to mean)
Private
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Koolaid wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
from the social media response, it's painting a very disturbing picture of how female abuse victims are to be treated. a lot of the response toward amber heard's recount of her abuse, whether that is real or fake, is ridicule. they're making fun of how she talks, how she acts, how she must be lying because it 'doesn't look real' (whatever that's supposed to mean)
not in the media i consume 
EtherealPJM
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Alam wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
Not only that but that all genders can be abusers
Plus amber heard abused the lover she had before Johnny
Koolaid
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Maxolotl wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
i don't think it's going to result in women not being believed but rather than people start to understand that both sexes can in fact be victims 
from the social media response, it's painting a very disturbing picture of how female abuse victims are to be treated. a lot of the response toward amber heard's recount of her abuse, whether that is real or fake, is ridicule. they're making fun of how she talks, how she acts, how she must be lying because it 'doesn't look real' (whatever that's supposed to mean)
not in the media i consume 
I'm largely seeing it on reddit and twitter. esp twitter has a lot of those comments.
Private
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Koolaid wrote:
Maxolotl wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
from the social media response, it's painting a very disturbing picture of how female abuse victims are to be treated. a lot of the response toward amber heard's recount of her abuse, whether that is real or fake, is ridicule. they're making fun of how she talks, how she acts, how she must be lying because it 'doesn't look real' (whatever that's supposed to mean)
not in the media i consume 
I'm largely seeing it on reddit and twitter. esp twitter has a lot of those comments.
ah yeah i don't really keep in touch with social media 
Private
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I think everyone is stupid everyone is acting stupid in court and boththeir cases r stupid everything is stupid. But also I get the ridicule cus she is acting ridiculous lol, which is weird since she gets acting roles but mby its harder to act in real life 
EtherealPJM
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I understand your concern however, Amber Heard is guilty. She's absolutely nuts, she abused the lover she had before Johnny
Koolaid
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ElaVampire wrote:
I understand your concern however, Amber Heard is guilty. She's absolutely nuts, she abused the lover she had before Johnny
my concern is not about amber heard's innocence, it's about the reaction to her trial, which is a reflection of how people think about abuse victims in general. it sets a worrying precedent. and as a woman i am afraid that it's what many people will use to discredit female victims.
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I do find the way people react over it to be extreme, at least what I saw

but Depp's ex-wife confirmed that he never hit her, he never had anything like that in the past besides his drug and alcohol abuse
Amber has a past of abuse and well it really does seem like she has some untreated problems


After hearing her and basically SAYING that she confirms that she wrote that thing about Johnny.
the would-be NO way so many witnesses come for Johnny's side if he was in fact, the guilty one here is her, she ruined his career and is faking disorders to get away with it, something that is so vile and shitty of her.

She needs serious help.
EtherealPJM
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Koolaid wrote:
ElaVampire wrote:
I understand your concern however, Amber Heard is guilty. She's absolutely nuts, she abused the lover she had before Johnny
my concern is not about amber heard's innocence, it's about the reaction to her trial, which is a reflection of how people think about abuse victims in general. it sets a worrying precedent. and as a woman i am afraid that it's what many people will use to discredit female victims.
Thats not what I meant, the reaction of her trial isn't knew, we've known she was awful
ArianaGrande
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ouch wrote:
I think everyone is stupid everyone is acting stupid in court and boththeir cases r stupid everything is stupid. But also I get the ridicule cus she is acting ridiculous lol, which is weird since she gets acting roles but mby its harder to act in real life 
yes

it annoys me when people try to defend amber to yell about misogyny, it's not about her as a woman but about her as an individual yes... whoever is using this as a crutch for misogyny is pea brained and probably a 12 year old elon musk stannie (sorry ouch)
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