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when learning a foreign language
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wug wrote:
do you translate the texts from the foreign language to a language you know or do you skip that step 
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Babel wrote:
I skip and it was probably a bad idea
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Date: 19-09-2022 23:46
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wug wrote:
Effer wrote:
I skip and it was probably a bad idea
idk.. i really cannot be arsed to translate the texts because it's like why would i 
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MasileinDE wrote:
I skip it
but that's because I'm the same level of fluent (which means same level of fucked up) in all the languages I speak




wait, no
I am tired
what is the question?

if I translate it into a language I know so I can understand what the language I'm learning is?
rarely, depends truly
on my level of understanding of the language I learn
but usually I just translate like concepts
or single words
like, I make sense of the stuff by understanding the concept of the word or expression and then roll with it
but also, it's been ages I was in that situation because I decided that knowing 4 languages and like 3 sentences in spanish is enough to survive
but whenever I read or hear spanish, I'm like "these words I know, I think I understand what the point of the sentence is, I'll just assume I got the gist and move on from here". but that's because I'm not really driven to improve on my barely A2 scratching spanish knowledge
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autism wrote:
yes
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Date: 20-09-2022 09:12
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Bimbo wrote:
In the beginning yes, but once you have a more solid grasp on the language you have to start thinking in that language because it's gonna make it easier and quicker and you're gonna learn it better 
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Bimbo wrote:
Like when I was learning English after the first couple of years when we had some base knowledge of the language we only spoke English in class, no Greek at all, which helped us learn how to think and speak in English. If we didn't understand a word we rarely translated it, we usually explained it in English instead 
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Holy wrote:
i used to do that but now i try to skip it since my brain connects more to the language im learning if i dont actually translate it. helps though w reading a word n imagining the object in my mind and skipping the language i already know all together 
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saoko wrote:
idk i don't translate it, i just read it and i know what it is saying, if that makes sense?¿ 
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Date: 20-09-2022 11:33
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glowed wrote:
depends on the level of knowledge of the language honestly. with languages i'm fluent/semi fluent in, i don't need to translate, but when i'm just starting out -- translation is a must
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Date: 20-09-2022 12:33
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MasileinDE wrote:
Bimbo wrote:
Like when I was learning English after the first couple of years when we had some base knowledge of the language we only spoke English in class, no Greek at all, which helped us learn how to think and speak in English. If we didn't understand a word we rarely translated it, we usually explained it in English instead 
I fucking hated that back in school
our school vernacular was French in ALL subjects except for German and English
like, French obviously was, but also Latin and all the other subjects. depending on what teacher you had, even phys ed was in French
I struggled with French the most out of all the languages I learned and actually had a few problems in some other subjects because we had it all in French and I didn't understand what was going on.
I mean imagine, you're already borderline stupid when it comes to the language, but then they explain to you something that you would struggle with if it was taught to you in your mother tongue. but no, now you have to learn it in a completely new language.
Also english was from the beginning on completely in English because we learnt it so late (grade 9)and the general assumption was, that everyone already knew the language a bit due to the internet and all. well guess what, I didn't know shit. For the first whole year, I really struggled a lot because the teacher refused to believe that I didn't already learn english beforehand. And I'm generally good with languages, like I pick them up fast. But having to learn a language in said language with little help otherwise was just fucking hell
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ouch wrote:
Bimbo wrote:
Like when I was learning English after the first couple of years when we had some base knowledge of the language we only spoke English in class, no Greek at all, which helped us learn how to think and speak in English. If we didn't understand a word we rarely translated it, we usually explained it in English instead 
we always spoke norwegian instead, except for reading out loud etc, idk if its a norway thing or just my class thing but it didn't stop me from being able to think in english lol
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ouch wrote:
Other than english I never learned any othwr languages so idk lol. I can't remember learning english so idk how I did that, but I never had like french or german or whatever so idk what I would do 
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wug wrote:
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Rotte wrote:
Of the spanish i managed to learn, i wrote down notes on translation of words that are useful
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Evey wrote:
like, i try to read texts in the language and translate the words i don't know yeah?

or what ya mean

sometimes i have translated songs in the language i am learning to my mother tongue but that's like, 50/50 wanna learn the language / wanna know what it's about
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