Alam wrote:
Alam wrote:
Hundo p, I work hard to learn languages that aren't my native languages (those being Hebrew and English, sort of, as I spent three years in Canada from age 3 which is why I speak English) but It's really hard so I'm always instantly smitten (or more accurately, a jealous little fuck) whenever I meet somebody that speaks languages that aren't their mother tongue.
That's true, it's because it's always been a very important import and transport hub (hope you appreciate alliteration).
The whole occupation thing is very complicated though, and I don't really want to get into it both because I disagree with Israelis choosing to live there (I don't think those that already do should or could be forced out, at least not in areas c) and because this isn't the time nor the place, I mean, this is a plant thread for goodness sake, but I will say that I find the whole ordeal very confusing, what is considered okay to keep in a war and what is it? Why, regardless of treatment, was it okay for the west bank to have been occupied by Jorden but not by Israel? How is it different to the golan heights or Sinai? Is the Jewish connection to the land not important in this equation? Is the Palestinian connection to the land not important in this equation? I don't fucking know, I'm a dumbass!
This is where we disagree, I think Jerusalem was conquered fair and square in battle (with Jordan, mind you)(I don't know if you can say that about anything when it comes to war, but if you can, you can say it about Jerusalem) and has been developed and brought to where it's at by Israelis. I think you'll find a majority of Arabs in Jerusalem prefer to be in Israel than Palestine, as has been exemplified by their reaction to Trump's stupid peace deal. That being said, I don't speak for them so I don't know. I also think it would never work as a city like the Vatican which is why it is best for it to be under Israeli control, as I doubt it would ever be accessible to Jews (not Israelis, Jews) if it were under Palestinian sovereignty. That being said, I wish it were more accessible to Palestinians, but sadly it has proven to be a security risk, to put it lightly.
And yet again I didn't tag you. Fuck. @Snusmumrikken
Snusmumrikken wrote:
My tropic snow never fails to amaze me, it keeps getting a ridiculous amount of new leaves and I don't even understand. I decided to hold back on the water as I watered it quite heavily before I left and I see no sign in it being thirsty yet either.
Yeah.. And non-native speakers need to become less aware of not sounding native because we aren't and shouldn't be ashamed because if anything it's very impressive to be able to communicate in something other than your mother tongue.
I think the core of the issue in the region is just like.. I cannot foresee a future with no international issues in the region. It all dates so far back it has borderline became what the region is, which is sad as it is probably a beautiful place (it should be at least strategically worth all the battles through history anyway). The entire Mediterranean area is quite problematic when you look at the history, with pretty much constant conflict, either international or within a nation. The issue in the region is also very complex, which people tend to ignore. It is often like that, a lot of people overlook WWI when talking about WWII which I honestly don't think is possible. Conflict is always difficult to deal with and the issue is never black and white.
My biggest issue with how it is from the Israeli side is how it seems like Palestinian land is slowly but steadily occupied forcing a lot of people from their homes and observing that from the outside is just horrible. I have to add that I can never accept Jerusalem as a capital city because of the cultural and political role of the city, ideally it should have a similar role as Vatican City.. although it would be problematic as well. There is no easy fix, it might not even be a fix to the problem.
@Alam
I guess they might store water in their thick ass not a trunk thingamabob.Alam wrote:
Interesting, in English they refer to colocasias as elephant ear plants, I don't see the pileas resemblance to elephant ears if I'm being honest.
Oh right, they sometimes grow trunks! They're cool plants, I like them. That's fair, I said it before and I'll say it again, native English speakers are the most entitled speakers, they often expect people to speak perfect English while not speaking a second language, it really bothers me.
It's okay, I saw it anyway, obviously. Thanks for tagging me this time. Do you want me to tag you as well?
Thank you, I hope so too but I'm not too hopeful, it's been pretty shit since Rabin, and I wasn't even born then. I mean, every prime minister after him has been corrupt so that's pretty fucking shit. I know, you make that very clear and I appreciate that, lot of people aren't as careful or don't word themselves quite as well as you do during arguments, myself included and I really admire that about you. I mean, I try my best but ehh... I also appreciate the fact that you don't have an issue with the notion of Israel, a lot of people don't understand the Jewish people's need for a homeland and our connection to the region, I mean, Judea and specifically Jerusalem are pretty much the only tangible thing that's holy to religious Jews and non religious Jews like myself have a very strong cultural connection to the region. Not to negate the Palestinians connection to the land, of course, two peoples can have a connection to the same thing, hence the old testament. Honestly the fact that I have to stress that is bothersome but this is the world we live in.
Hmmm Interesting, in English they refer to colocasias as elephant ear plants, I don't see the pileas resemblance to elephant ears if I'm being honest.
Oh right, they sometimes grow trunks! They're cool plants, I like them. That's fair, I said it before and I'll say it again, native English speakers are the most entitled speakers, they often expect people to speak perfect English while not speaking a second language, it really bothers me.
It's okay, I saw it anyway, obviously. Thanks for tagging me this time. Do you want me to tag you as well?
Thank you, I hope so too but I'm not too hopeful, it's been pretty shit since Rabin, and I wasn't even born then. I mean, every prime minister after him has been corrupt so that's pretty fucking shit. I know, you make that very clear and I appreciate that, lot of people aren't as careful or don't word themselves quite as well as you do during arguments, myself included and I really admire that about you. I mean, I try my best but ehh... I also appreciate the fact that you don't have an issue with the notion of Israel, a lot of people don't understand the Jewish people's need for a homeland and our connection to the region, I mean, Judea and specifically Jerusalem are pretty much the only tangible thing that's holy to religious Jews and non religious Jews like myself have a very strong cultural connection to the region. Not to negate the Palestinians connection to the land, of course, two peoples can have a connection to the same thing, hence the old testament. Honestly the fact that I have to stress that is bothersome but this is the world we live in.
My tropic snow never fails to amaze me, it keeps getting a ridiculous amount of new leaves and I don't even understand. I decided to hold back on the water as I watered it quite heavily before I left and I see no sign in it being thirsty yet either.
Yeah.. And non-native speakers need to become less aware of not sounding native because we aren't and shouldn't be ashamed because if anything it's very impressive to be able to communicate in something other than your mother tongue.
I think the core of the issue in the region is just like.. I cannot foresee a future with no international issues in the region. It all dates so far back it has borderline became what the region is, which is sad as it is probably a beautiful place (it should be at least strategically worth all the battles through history anyway). The entire Mediterranean area is quite problematic when you look at the history, with pretty much constant conflict, either international or within a nation. The issue in the region is also very complex, which people tend to ignore. It is often like that, a lot of people overlook WWI when talking about WWII which I honestly don't think is possible. Conflict is always difficult to deal with and the issue is never black and white.
My biggest issue with how it is from the Israeli side is how it seems like Palestinian land is slowly but steadily occupied forcing a lot of people from their homes and observing that from the outside is just horrible. I have to add that I can never accept Jerusalem as a capital city because of the cultural and political role of the city, ideally it should have a similar role as Vatican City.. although it would be problematic as well. There is no easy fix, it might not even be a fix to the problem.
@Alam
Hundo p, I work hard to learn languages that aren't my native languages (those being Hebrew and English, sort of, as I spent three years in Canada from age 3 which is why I speak English) but It's really hard so I'm always instantly smitten (or more accurately, a jealous little fuck) whenever I meet somebody that speaks languages that aren't their mother tongue.
That's true, it's because it's always been a very important import and transport hub (hope you appreciate alliteration).
The whole occupation thing is very complicated though, and I don't really want to get into it both because I disagree with Israelis choosing to live there (I don't think those that already do should or could be forced out, at least not in areas c) and because this isn't the time nor the place, I mean, this is a plant thread for goodness sake, but I will say that I find the whole ordeal very confusing, what is considered okay to keep in a war and what is it? Why, regardless of treatment, was it okay for the west bank to have been occupied by Jorden but not by Israel? How is it different to the golan heights or Sinai? Is the Jewish connection to the land not important in this equation? Is the Palestinian connection to the land not important in this equation? I don't fucking know, I'm a dumbass!
This is where we disagree, I think Jerusalem was conquered fair and square in battle (with Jordan, mind you)(I don't know if you can say that about anything when it comes to war, but if you can, you can say it about Jerusalem) and has been developed and brought to where it's at by Israelis. I think you'll find a majority of Arabs in Jerusalem prefer to be in Israel than Palestine, as has been exemplified by their reaction to Trump's stupid peace deal. That being said, I don't speak for them so I don't know. I also think it would never work as a city like the Vatican which is why it is best for it to be under Israeli control, as I doubt it would ever be accessible to Jews (not Israelis, Jews) if it were under Palestinian sovereignty. That being said, I wish it were more accessible to Palestinians, but sadly it has proven to be a security risk, to put it lightly.