disintegration wrote:yellmi wrote:
when we allow some people to have children and some people not, we do so because of a motive. do we not want sick/disabled people to have children because they cost the government money and because they cannot generate profit? or because we do not want their children to suffer?
if its the first reason this is very twisted mentality cause soon you arrive at other thoughts like, homeless people arent contributing to society, the elderly, immigrants etc. and what do you do then? thoughts like this end in ethnic cleansing. this is just plain disgusting.
if its the second reason, you are completely invalidating the personal experiences of sick/disabled people. they can be happy and fullfilled and joyful too, and unless they have a develpmental disability where their brain stays childlike (in which case they probably wont be having children unless they are raped by ther caretaker), they very much do know what it means to have a child with their sickness/disability and know the gravity of their decision. it should be up to each individual to decide. to think all sick/disabled people are dumb and always suffering and dont know they would jsut create more suffering is very patronizing.
i'm super afraid that we are gonna end in an society where you can test if your child will be autistic, disabled, gay,... and are pressured to abort it or aren't even allowed to get pregnant at all if they are, it reminds me of history lessons in class, because hitler tried to do the same thing, with less success because of the lack of technology.
I disagree. If you were able to test the kid for such things (not gay that's weird because being gay is not the same as being idk disabled) and I was pregnant, I would. Why? Because I can honestly say I don't want a child who will never be able to communicate so that others understand, a child who suffers... and so on. I mean there are levels of it, you know? If I had a kid and the kid turned out to be autistic, but they could communicate their needs and wants and grow up to be able to live on their own and take care of themselves, I wouldn't care, you know? I'd just try my best to help that kid achieve whatever they could achieve. Now on the other hand if I had a kid, and it turned out to have infantile autism, you know, the sort of autism that would make a person literally behave like an infant for the rest of their lives (never be house trained, never talk or sign properly, always need to be cared for), I'd be fucking crushed. 
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