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Nina wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Allie wrote:
DT doesn't choose which sets designers send into different teams. It doesn't go through DT if one person contacts ET or SMT to give them a set. It's up to the designer c: 
I get your point tho 💕
Yea, I don't really agree with that method either...
I think all the sets should be submitted to the Jess or a main pool from where the teams can choose for codes and events, but only after all the obligatory sets (mcw/ auction/ dm/ hof/ wof) have been covered... it feels like teams get everything first and whatever left is being used to cover the rest. :\

That actually kinda falls into the hands and responsibilities of the designers
Like, not to make anyone look bad or throw shade, we all have different reasons for why we give our sets to whoever, but in most cases the designers do have the choice if they make a set for the teams or not
believe it or not, but a designer can say no if a team wants to use their sets
it's a bit more difficult with designers from other servers, because they usually decide for their own server. So for instance Sol makes a code design for one of the teams there and now the EN and DE are free to use that code outfit for whatever team they want. In most cases, this is first come first serve.
So, it's ultimately the "designer's fault" (very lightly put) if sets get used as codes. But again, we all have reasons for that and just going around nagging about it instead of trying to understand the reasons is a bit ... not so thougt through. No shame to the people who critique the use of sets, but there are more things at play than users see at first glance.
Yea, I don't agree with that method as I said. :'D
I don't think that makes me not thoughtful.
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:45
Reaper
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Reaper wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Vissy wrote:
Noemie wrote:
I was waiting for that adjective from someone, whenever this comes up, someone always has to use this. 
Well sorry as a nond who's designs no one really cares about I got offended, I don't understand why you need to be kinda negative here even if you don't mean it, it really seems like you just personally want certain designers

the point she raises is a good one though
because it shoes that people still need to be educated on how things work around here
Definitely 💀
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:45
Allie
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Allie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
So in regards to the Solovey stuff, the only time her sets are really used are MCW (2 sets) and auction weekend (1 set). Its very rare her sets are used for anything else but that's because we have a requirement to use them.

We use whatever sets we have and from a business pov, it makes more sense to keep the 'popular designers' for the uses where users pay to get the sets. Every designer deserves the right for their design to be in game - regardless if they are 'popular' or not. The idea of a popular design to be honest annoys me because e ery designer puts hard work behind their art.
Okay, let's lave Sol. There are other designers too who are popular.
I know it's bad that there are people considered popular, but this is how it is and cannot be denied.... some people just somehow manage to appeal more to the mass than the others. And we rarely get them for general things.

in that case, ask the designers themselves? because they make the choice on what their sets get used for (team or DT use that is, sometimes even more specific, but that depends a bit on how things are handled on the respective server)
^ this works on EN. Not NL, as an example. However it can never be promised something will be used as a certain thing. 
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Allie
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Allie wrote:
Vissy wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Vissy wrote:
Well sorry as a nond who's designs no one really cares about I got offended, I don't understand why you need to be kinda negative here even if you don't mean it, it really seems like you just personally want certain designers

the point she raises is a good one though
because it shoes that people still need to be educated on how things work around here
Definitely 💀
🤣
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:45
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Yea, I don't really agree with that method either...
I think all the sets should be submitted to the Jess or a main pool from where the teams can choose for codes and events, but only after all the obligatory sets (mcw/ auction/ dm/ hof/ wof) have been covered... it feels like teams get everything first and whatever left is being used to cover the rest. :\

That actually kinda falls into the hands and responsibilities of the designers
Like, not to make anyone look bad or throw shade, we all have different reasons for why we give our sets to whoever, but in most cases the designers do have the choice if they make a set for the teams or not
believe it or not, but a designer can say no if a team wants to use their sets
it's a bit more difficult with designers from other servers, because they usually decide for their own server. So for instance Sol makes a code design for one of the teams there and now the EN and DE are free to use that code outfit for whatever team they want. In most cases, this is first come first serve.
So, it's ultimately the "designer's fault" (very lightly put) if sets get used as codes. But again, we all have reasons for that and just going around nagging about it instead of trying to understand the reasons is a bit ... not so thougt through. No shame to the people who critique the use of sets, but there are more things at play than users see at first glance.
Yea, I don't agree with that method as I said. :'D
I don't think that makes me not thoughtful.

well, then quit or try to get used to it, because that's the only way we can handle it with there being three semi-independant servers
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:46
Reaper
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Reaper wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

That actually kinda falls into the hands and responsibilities of the designers
Like, not to make anyone look bad or throw shade, we all have different reasons for why we give our sets to whoever, but in most cases the designers do have the choice if they make a set for the teams or not
believe it or not, but a designer can say no if a team wants to use their sets
it's a bit more difficult with designers from other servers, because they usually decide for their own server. So for instance Sol makes a code design for one of the teams there and now the EN and DE are free to use that code outfit for whatever team they want. In most cases, this is first come first serve.
So, it's ultimately the "designer's fault" (very lightly put) if sets get used as codes. But again, we all have reasons for that and just going around nagging about it instead of trying to understand the reasons is a bit ... not so thougt through. No shame to the people who critique the use of sets, but there are more things at play than users see at first glance.
Yea, I don't agree with that method as I said. :'D
I don't think that makes me not thoughtful.

well, then quit or try to get used to it, because that's the only way we can handle it with there being three semi-independant servers
🤠👍🏻
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Reaper
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Reaper wrote:
But like the male cr set is amazing well done ellem!
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Nina wrote:
Vissy wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Vissy wrote:
Bruh why does it need to be "epic" it's just a bonus thing you might get 🙄🙄 i mean u saying this makes u seem a lil unappreciative
I was waiting for that adjective from someone, whenever this comes up, someone always has to use this. 
Well sorry as a nond who's designs no one really cares about I got offended, I don't understand why you need to be kinda negative here even if you don't mean it, it really seems like you just personally want certain designers
Sorry you took it personal. I'm just disappointed most of the sets you can gain without participating contests/ raffles don't fit my style lately.
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:47
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Allie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Okay, let's lave Sol. There are other designers too who are popular.
I know it's bad that there are people considered popular, but this is how it is and cannot be denied.... some people just somehow manage to appeal more to the mass than the others. And we rarely get them for general things.

in that case, ask the designers themselves? because they make the choice on what their sets get used for (team or DT use that is, sometimes even more specific, but that depends a bit on how things are handled on the respective server)
^ this works on EN. Not NL, as an example. However it can never be promised something will be used as a certain thing. 

I know, but Noemie can still ask Sol why she decides to make a certain set a code
because Sol kinda has a choice if she makes it a code or not, I doubt she's contractually obliged to make x codes per month

like sure, you might not be able to ask why it was used as Hof/Wof or DM, because that's up to the admin of the server the set is from, but at least for why some things end up being codes and others are regular sets
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:48
Ausma
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Ausma wrote:
Not a fan of CR set that time. I`d like to have pd set, but I`m out of pd`s
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:48
Reaper
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Reaper wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Vissy wrote:
Noemie wrote:
I was waiting for that adjective from someone, whenever this comes up, someone always has to use this. 
Well sorry as a nond who's designs no one really cares about I got offended, I don't understand why you need to be kinda negative here even if you don't mean it, it really seems like you just personally want certain designers
Sorry you took it personal. I'm just disappointed most of the sets you can gain without participating contests/ raffles don't fit my style lately.
Well not everyone can be pleased all the time
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Ausma
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Ausma wrote:
May be I`ll buy it later
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:48
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Vissy wrote:
Noemie wrote:
I was waiting for that adjective from someone, whenever this comes up, someone always has to use this. 
Well sorry as a nond who's designs no one really cares about I got offended, I don't understand why you need to be kinda negative here even if you don't mean it, it really seems like you just personally want certain designers
Sorry you took it personal. I'm just disappointed most of the sets you can gain without participating contests/ raffles don't fit my style lately.

but that's ultimately your issue
sorry to say this, but you are the one who's not satisfied
the designers and teams are not here to make sure you are always a 100% satisfied, their obligation goes to the WHOLE community and we don't all want the same things you want
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Nina wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
So in regards to the Solovey stuff, the only time her sets are really used are MCW (2 sets) and auction weekend (1 set). Its very rare her sets are used for anything else but that's because we have a requirement to use them.

We use whatever sets we have and from a business pov, it makes more sense to keep the 'popular designers' for the uses where users pay to get the sets. Every designer deserves the right for their design to be in game - regardless if they are 'popular' or not. The idea of a popular design to be honest annoys me because e ery designer puts hard work behind their art.
Okay, let's lave Sol. There are other designers too who are popular.
I know it's bad that there are people considered popular, but this is how it is and cannot be denied.... some people just somehow manage to appeal more to the mass than the others. And we rarely get them for general things.

in that case, ask the designers themselves? because they make the choice on what their sets get used for (team or DT use that is, sometimes even more specific, but that depends a bit on how things are handled on the respective server)
Okay, I'll message them 1 by 1.
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Date: 07-11-2020 10:49
MasileinDE
International star



MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Noemie wrote:
Okay, let's lave Sol. There are other designers too who are popular.
I know it's bad that there are people considered popular, but this is how it is and cannot be denied.... some people just somehow manage to appeal more to the mass than the others. And we rarely get them for general things.

in that case, ask the designers themselves? because they make the choice on what their sets get used for (team or DT use that is, sometimes even more specific, but that depends a bit on how things are handled on the respective server)
Okay, I'll message them 1 by 1.

sure
just don't expect an answer from everyone, because no one is obliged to justify their choices to someone who's butthurt over not getting everything she wants for free
(yes, I'm cross)
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