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Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
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Because it’s not going to make a real difference. Activism or running for local positions in politics would be better
exactly!!! being a "rebel" voting blank is not cool. activism is better and will make a bigger change.
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:08
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wug wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
December wrote:
i understand what you guys mean but it won't really change anything. guess i'm a pessimist after all.
Imo, even showing up voting blank is better than not voting. Also, voting blank is quite the statement. 
In the Swedish context, I completely agree with this. Voting blank is so much better than not voting at all, because you are using your vote and showing that you care.
Yes, Nordic context here. The US is honestly nothing but hard no in this. 
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BloomCissi wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
Because it’s not going to make a real difference. Activism or running for local positions in politics would be better
exactly!!! being a "rebel" voting blank is not cool. activism is better and will make a bigger change.
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
But that's literally how a majority system works, which is why it's so problematic.
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:10
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December wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
Because it’s not going to make a real difference. Activism or running for local positions in politics would be better
exactly!!! being a "rebel" voting blank is not cool. activism is better and will make a bigger change.
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
yeah but the future of the country is at stake lol sometimes we gotta do things we don't wanna do. might be a controversial opinion idk. i know what you mean but now it's all about just getting trump tf out of the white house.
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:11
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December wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
December wrote:
i understand what you guys mean but it won't really change anything. guess i'm a pessimist after all.
Imo, even showing up voting blank is better than not voting. Also, voting blank is quite the statement. 
In the Swedish context, I completely agree with this. Voting blank is so much better than not voting at all, because you are using your vote and showing that you care.
i'm swedish and i feel like it's more ok to vote blank here than in the us where a fascist is ruling.
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:12
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TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
exactly!!! being a "rebel" voting blank is not cool. activism is better and will make a bigger change.
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
But that's literally how a majority system works, which is why it's so problematic.
Yes, this is true.
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:13
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BloomCissi wrote:
I think the best system (which I read about during a course in political science I took several years ago) would be a proportional system in which you rank two choices. If your first choice does not get enough votes to make it into parliament, your second choice will count. This would enable people to vote for what they actually want to vote for, instead of being scared of casting a vote that won't matter.
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:14
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December wrote:
TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
But that's literally how a majority system works, which is why it's so problematic.
Yes, this is true.
yeah it is a problem and it needs to change but sadly this is how it is
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wug wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
I think the best system (which I read about during a course in political science I took several years ago) would be a proportional system in which you rank two choices. If your first choice does not get enough votes to make it into parliament, your second choice will count. This would enable people to vote for what they actually want to vote for, instead of being scared of casting a vote that won't matter.
Oh that's spicy lol 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:14
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TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
I think the best system (which I read about during a course in political science I took several years ago) would be a proportional system in which you rank two choices. If your first choice does not get enough votes to make it into parliament, your second choice will count. This would enable people to vote for what they actually want to vote for, instead of being scared of casting a vote that won't matter.
I like the sound of that.
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December wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
I think the best system (which I read about during a course in political science I took several years ago) would be a proportional system in which you rank two choices. If your first choice does not get enough votes to make it into parliament, your second choice will count. This would enable people to vote for what they actually want to vote for, instead of being scared of casting a vote that won't matter.
that would be great. why is this not a thing??
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:15
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
exactly!!! being a "rebel" voting blank is not cool. activism is better and will make a bigger change.
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
yeah but the future of the country is at stake lol sometimes we gotta do things we don't wanna do. might be a controversial opinion idk. i know what you mean but now it's all about just getting trump tf out of the white house.
i dont think getting rid of trump as president is gonna save the future of the country . i mean im getting v controversial here but i believe we should b willing to potentially sacrifice the short term future for the long term future .  N i think biden might b worse for the short term future in many ways. eeek. 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:16
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wug wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
yeah but the future of the country is at stake lol sometimes we gotta do things we don't wanna do. might be a controversial opinion idk. i know what you mean but now it's all about just getting trump tf out of the white house.
i dont think getting rid of trump as president is gonna save the future of the country . i mean im getting v controversial here but i believe we should b willing to potentially sacrifice the short term future for the long term future .  N i think biden might b worse for the short term future in many ways. eeek. 
I completely see what you mean. 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:17
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BloomCissi wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i think i would feel too disgusted w myself if i allowed myself to b forced into voting for someone i dont want to vote for . how is it a democracy if u r forced into voting for someone that u despise ? Isnt tht what happens in authoritarian regimes
yeah but the future of the country is at stake lol sometimes we gotta do things we don't wanna do. might be a controversial opinion idk. i know what you mean but now it's all about just getting trump tf out of the white house.
i dont think getting rid of trump as president is gonna save the future of the country . i mean im getting v controversial here but i believe we should b willing to potentially sacrifice the short term future for the long term future .  N i think biden might b worse for the short term future in many ways. eeek. 
How so?
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:17
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December wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
December wrote:
yeah but the future of the country is at stake lol sometimes we gotta do things we don't wanna do. might be a controversial opinion idk. i know what you mean but now it's all about just getting trump tf out of the white house.
i dont think getting rid of trump as president is gonna save the future of the country . i mean im getting v controversial here but i believe we should b willing to potentially sacrifice the short term future for the long term future .  N i think biden might b worse for the short term future in many ways. eeek. 
How so?
i wanna know too lol
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:18
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